No Surgery for Eric Berry

[O.city]

Talked with Andy Reid and he told me that Eric Berry isn’t having surgery this offseason.

— Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) February 27, 2019

Thought this might deserve it's own thread.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Yeah people who have problems with Petro think it's because he's dumb. Yep that's the M.O. right there. He's dumb.

give me a ****ing break.

God this place is trash today.

You’re reading the “Eric Berry (insert anything)” thread. Your expectations were what exactly?

I’m beginning to think Chiefs fans - especially those on CP - don’t really like him.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You guys.... Petro is saying that you cut Berry, not keep him.

The Tweet doesn't read like that. Maybe with voice inflection? All I can do is go on his track record, the same track record that defended Cassel until it was blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that Cassel sucked.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

The guy is a complete ****ing Lop and has been going all the way back to Herm Edwards, and probably before that I'm sure. Only the dumbest of ****s listen to one single word that comes from his or Keitzman's mouth without first grabbing a salt-lick to chew on.

If there's a wrong move, if there's an IDIOTIC move, if there's a COMPLETELY stupid ****ing take to be had, he will root it out endlessly and scream it from the top of the radio mountain for all to be made dumber by it. I personally credit him and Keitzman for the portion of this fan base that doesn't know it's dick from a stick, and couldn't understand why the most basic and rudimentary elements of team-building do NOT start at Left Tackle.

lol no

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

The Tweet doesn't read like that. Maybe with voice inflection? All I can do is go on his track record, the same track record that defended Cassel until it was blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that Cassel sucked.

It sounds like Petro is saying Berry can be a productive player for Oak, Den or LA.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by New World Order

It sounds like Petro is saying Berry can be a productive player for Oak, Den or LA.

That's what I read as well. And to that I say, "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTT".......

In the exact same way I proudly hold the middle finger up to those who cowered at the idea of seeing Alex Smith in Denver.

Oh Noes! ( let's have another wet and juicy one for THOSE spineless turds too!)

Ahem:

"PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...drip-drip-drip...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT.......pfft!

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by New World Order

It sounds like Petro is saying Berry can be a productive player for Oak, Den or LA.

I don't read that at all and I'm not a Petro fan.

It sounds to me like he's laying out two worst case scenarios and wants to know which one is worse.

Obviously there's a myriad of other possibilities that are much more palatable than either of those two.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

That's what I read as well. And to that I say, "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTT".......

In the exact same way I proudly hold the middle finger up to those who cowered at the idea of seeing Alex Smith in Denver.

Oh Noes! ( let's have another wet and juicy one for THOSE spineless turds too!)

Ahem:

"PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...drip-drip-drip...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTT.......pfft!

[htismaqe]

I mean, if he's suggesting that Berry can be productive elsewhere then what is choice #1?

He's not dumb - he's not suggesting that Berry languishes here and continues to be hurt or he goes to another team and produces.

It's entirely possible Berry could produce here next year. And it's entirely possible he's "day to day" for the Raiders all next season.

Neither of those scenarios are worst-case scenarios though, so they're not under consideration. Seems pretty simple to me.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I mean, if he's suggesting that Berry can be productive elsewhere then what is choice #1?

He's not dumb - he's not suggesting that Berry languishes here and continues to be hurt or he goes to another team and produces.

It's entirely possible Berry could produce here next year. And it's entirely possible he's "day to day" for the Raiders all next season.

Neither of those scenarios are worst-case scenarios though, so they're not under consideration. Seems pretty simple to me.

That he implies that EITHER scenario is "bad", is all I need to hear! Neither scenario is bad. Both are in fact quite fine. The only thing that is "bad", is getting no compensation, and there's not much of anything that can be done about that in either case.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

That he implies that EITHER scenario is "bad", is all I need to hear! Neither scenario is bad. Both are in fact quite fine. The only thing that is "bad", is getting no compensation, and there's not much of anything that can be done about that in either case.

I would say if Eric Berry goes on to be a productive Eric Berry for a team inside the division, that's a scenario that would make a lot of people sick. It's definitely not good.

Not saying he would be productive but having him play WELL for another AFC West team would not be a good thing. We're not talking about Alex Smith ceiling here, he's much better than that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I would say if Eric Berry goes on to be a productive Eric Berry for a team inside the division, that's a scenario that would make a lot of people sick. It's definitely not good.

Not saying he would be productive but having him play WELL for another AFC West team would not be a good thing. We're not talking about Alex Smith ceiling here, he's much better than that.

And I'm saying I'll happily take that risk because "well" in the case of Eric Berry means little to nothing these days. I see nothing to fret over sans the loss of compensation.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I mean, if he's suggesting that Berry can be productive elsewhere then what is choice #1?

He's not dumb - he's not suggesting that Berry languishes here and continues to be hurt or he goes to another team and produces.

It's entirely possible Berry could produce here next year. And it's entirely possible he's "day to day" for the Raiders all next season.

Neither of those scenarios are worst-case scenarios though, so they're not under consideration. Seems pretty simple to me.

What’s simple to me is that this isn’t charity and Veach isn’t stupid. No one here has any idea what went on with Berry over the last year, but the Chiefs do. Berry just made a decision regarding surgery which made it so much more palatable for the Chiefs to cut him. If they decide to do so, great. If they don’t, it’s not charity as much as it’s a belief that he can return to Pro Bowl form.

We can all bitch and moan and assume but I’ll trust the organization here with this one. I’m sure last season didn’t go according to plan. But everything we’ve done with the defensive staff is from much more of a brass-knuckle mindset. Not sure why the ultimate decision here would be any different.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

This is the option I am most in line with. I have NO problem keeping him and watching him kick ass all year. If that's the case, then all of this animosity is going to be a distant memory.

IF that's the case...

Same as last year

[jallmon]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

lol. If they're keeping Berry, they're not doing so for any meaningful contributions on the field.

That day is long past, and there is no risk whatsoever in cutting this player. It's far riskier to put him in situations of importance.

If they want to keep him to make speeches to the other players( which would be dumb as **** because he's not actually playing as a team mate and helping to contribute ), and to take a lesser cap hit when cutting him next season, that's fine by me. Just keep his slow ass off the field.

Maybe he could be an assistant db coach. If the players like/respect him as much as I've read, it seems he could help the two new db coaches spags brought in to communicate with the players. And he would be a good source of info on the players' characteristics, abilities, and possible strategies for the future, as a member of the staff. If it is true that he disagreed with Bob Sutton about how the secondary was used, he could help formulate a new scheme to fit our players.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I’ll trust the organization