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Yeesh - Alec Baldwin just plopped into a world of hurt
Breaking - details forthcoming
Discharged a 'prop' weapon that resulted in a death and another severe injury. https://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...c47b69ce5.html Last edited by Baby Lee; 10-21-2021 at 09:36 PM.. |
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10-22-2021, 11:25 PM | #256 |
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Yeah she could be in trouble. How the hell do you let it happen multiple times?
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LA Times has more articles up on this.
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Protocols can often be tuned in an effort to minimize liability, but they don't form a shield against liability unless the court sets precedent saying so. I said from the outset it's a close question, but it's not one that will be avoided by arguing that 'no one else did this.' No one died in those other instances. The question is how much of a duty of first-person verification remains that cannot be discharged to another when one points a gun at another person and pulls the trigger. This question assumes two things that aren't established beyond doubt as yet, knowledge that someone was in the line of fire and knowing pulling of the trigger. If either of those are contrary to evidence, the specific question is moot [which is why I noted the 'cautious-assed' verbiage above, where Alec's volitional act was pulling the gun from the holster, but the sudden velocity and direction of the ammunition has no impetus identified]. EDIT - also, new info that there were previous misfires around set, if proven, would only enhance the durability of Baldwin's non-dischargable duty to exercise care in handling himself. It's one thing to point a gun in the direction of another and pull the trigger when an expert tells you it's safe to, . . that's bad enough. But do it when those same experts are handing guns to others and saying they are safe and the guns are discharging payloads, and you are aware of this failure of protocol . . that is an enhanced situation. Last edited by Baby Lee; 10-23-2021 at 01:30 AM.. |
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10-23-2021, 02:54 AM | #261 |
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All the gold boxes around my posts in this thread seems to be a serious irritant to the socialist vag.
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10-23-2021, 03:33 AM | #262 |
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Ya... that armorer probably deserves to be mopping prison floors for a few years.
To have this happen multiple times in the same filming leads me to believe her level of incompetence probably means her definition of "cold gun" means its cold to the touch. But after missing the last 10 pages or so of this thread and reading through it, it seems a lot of people cant seem to disconnect this scenario from reality. I don't expect an actor to sit there and go through a ****ing safety protocol on set when there's someone on set who's sole purpose is to be responsible for the inspection and handling of the guns and that person hands him a prop gun and says its "cold." Time to bow out from this one. |
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10-23-2021, 05:11 AM | #263 |
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Since Baldwin is/was making this movie, he is responsible for this tragedy. |
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10-23-2021, 06:21 AM | #266 |
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I'm still trying to figure out how a blank could do that much damage. I realize there's a wad, but every one I've ever seen has been paper and it only flies about 6-8 feet. You'd think once it hit the woman it would have stopped rather than go through her.
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It was a live round, not a blank. Problem is, if prop guns are rigged to only accept blanks, then the gun in question must not have been a prop. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered.
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One more thing to think about is it's not totally Baldwin's movie. I think there were 3 or 4 other production companies involved. Many movies/TV shows have multiple "producers" where one or more of the stars ges a credit (and more money) by being a producer. If the liability is ultimately tied to the production companies, then Baldwin is not at fault alone. |
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