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Old 07-06-2020, 11:53 PM   #2
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Old 07-07-2020, 08:58 AM   #3
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I don't speak jive...(Airplane reference)...what does he actually mean by that?
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Old 07-07-2020, 05:54 PM   #4
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I don't speak jive...(Airplane reference)...what does he actually mean by that?
Was gonna ask the same thing. Anyone decipher this?
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:05 PM   #5
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Was gonna ask the same thing. Anyone decipher this?
Heh. Either:

1 - nobody understands it but also don't want to admit that
2 - I'm friggin old and these young whipper-snappers are ignoring me (or us...no idea how old you are...)
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:13 PM   #6
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Heh. Either:

1 - nobody understands it but also don't want to admit that
2 - I'm friggin old and these young whipper-snappers are ignoring me (or us...no idea how old you are...)
2.

I know what it means because it's a phrase that's been around for decades. There are plenty of memes as well.
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Old 07-07-2020, 12:14 AM   #7
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If Jones has any sense, he would want to stay here and win multiple championships.
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Old 07-07-2020, 09:08 AM   #8
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If Jones has any sense, he would want to stay here and win multiple championships.
True, but he does play DT. We’ve seen those guys fall apart overnight. He needs to get his money while he can. He isn’t near as marketable as a QB either.

I don’t fault him for wanting the money above all else right now. That’s how most of us are with our jobs.
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Old 07-07-2020, 09:23 AM   #9
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True, but he does play DT. We’ve seen those guys fall apart overnight. He needs to get his money while he can. He isn’t near as marketable as a QB either.

I don’t fault him for wanting the money above all else right now. That’s how most of us are with our jobs.
5 years, $100M, $52M guaranteed

$30M signing bonus

Base/Roster-Workout Bonuses
1: $4M (guaranteed)
2: $6M (guaranteed)
3: $12M (guaranteed)
4: $18M
5: $20M (10M roster)

Throw in some incentives that would not be seen as "likely" so you can get around them (All-Pro? MVP? 15+ sacks?) and sweeten the pot a little bit. Maybe something like each year he gets 15+ sacks he gets $1.5 million (like Pat's MVP/AFC Title incentives).

That gets your cap hit this year down to $10M (saving $6 million). Gets the Chiefs to about $14M in cap room.

Option 1 (Boring): Roll that cap space over to next year to make up for the 2021 salary cap dip

Option 2 (Aggressive):
Add Jadaveon Clowney on a 1-year, $10-12M deal.

Win Super Bowl. Clowney hits FA again at age 28 coming off a SB win and likely a huge year.

Get comp pick when he signs the huge deal he wants.

Profit.

Which do you think Veach is eyeing?
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Old 07-07-2020, 09:37 AM   #10
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5 years, $100M, $52M guaranteed

$30M signing bonus

Base/Roster-Workout Bonuses
1: $4M (guaranteed)
2: $6M (guaranteed)
3: $12M (guaranteed)
4: $18M
5: $20M (10M roster)

Throw in some incentives that would not be seen as "likely" so you can get around them (All-Pro? MVP? 15+ sacks?) and sweeten the pot a little bit. Maybe something like each year he gets 15+ sacks he gets $1.5 million (like Pat's MVP/AFC Title incentives).

That gets your cap hit this year down to $10M (saving $6 million). Gets the Chiefs to about $14M in cap room.

Option 1 (Boring): Roll that cap space over to next year to make up for the 2021 salary cap dip

Option 2 (Aggressive):
Add Jadaveon Clowney on a 1-year, $10-12M deal.

Win Super Bowl. Clowney hits FA again at age 28 coming off a SB win and likely a huge year.

Get comp pick when he signs the huge deal he wants.

Profit.

Which do you think Veach is eyeing?
Most likely the aggressive option. Assuming Clowney will take that deal.
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Old 07-07-2020, 09:39 AM   #11
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Most likely the aggressive option. Assuming Clowney will take that deal.

If not Clowney, Everson Griffen or Logan Ryan also are out there.

Griffen would be an under-radar ADs that might work even better than Clowney.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:59 PM   #12
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5 years, $100M, $52M guaranteed

$30M signing bonus
KC pretty much offered this to Jones last year and he turned it down. Consistent rumors say he wants the Frank Clark deal and won't take anything less.
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:15 PM   #13
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KC pretty much offered this to Jones last year and he turned it down. Consistent rumors say he wants the Frank Clark deal and won't take anything less.
I get it, but that is gonna be hard to do. Other contracts coming up in a couple of years that will need to be done too.
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:39 PM   #14
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KC pretty much offered this to Jones last year and he turned it down. Consistent rumors say he wants the Frank Clark deal and won't take anything less.

Clark’s deal was 5/102 with less $$ guaranteed.


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Old 07-07-2020, 09:25 AM   #15
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Clowney has offers on the table from Cleveland, LV and Tennessee, he's holding out because he doesn't want to play for shitty teams.
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