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05-03-2020, 10:49 AM | #26881 |
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kansas City
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I’ve watched in depth videos and read journals on the work being done on the vaccine that I only understand every 5th word and would put most people to sleep, and I’m 99% certain that even if we don’t have a 100% effective vaccine by years end, we will have a vaccine going to health care professionals that will both be safe and effective by years end. That vaccine may later need boosters or another vaccine, but the medical professionals I’ve researched are very bullish on effective vaccine prospects. The one place that continues to throw shade towards that are the Chinese researchers. The South Korea finding that the virus rna has a 3 month half life and that the people testing positive later were because of dead virus rna was HUGE news that didn’t get a ton of play.
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05-03-2020, 10:51 AM | #26882 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
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-No restrictions of any sort, everything is normal = 1.5 million people dead by mid-2021 -Restrictions on concerts, sporting events, and conventions only = 400k people dead by mid-2021 -Full lockdown like we've had in the past month = 300k people dead by 2021 So the gist is that we'll get MOST of the benefit just by restricting the major sources of spread and that the restrictions on all of the smaller things only provide a small, incremental benefit. |
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05-03-2020, 10:52 AM | #26883 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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You could do some emergency human stuff with the vaccines where you give it to people, purposely introduce the antigen and watch results.
It wades into some pretty weird ethically issues though. |
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05-03-2020, 10:52 AM | #26884 |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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I have what might be a stupid question, but oh well. We keep talking about herd immunity and that it is a way to eradicate COVID-19. Is there an example of a disease that we reached herd immunity without the use of vaccines? Hell we don't even know for sure that you cant become reinfected.
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05-03-2020, 10:52 AM | #26885 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
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How do you juggle not wanting large swaths of people to lose their lives with trying to make sure the country remains solvent? As you said, there are no easy answers as of right now. |
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05-03-2020, 10:54 AM | #26886 |
I love your mom
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Sturgeon Falls, Ontario
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05-03-2020, 10:54 AM | #26887 | |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
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It's the truth. |
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05-03-2020, 10:54 AM | #26888 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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If in fact the "percent immunity" were in the 20's or 30's, that could explain NYC slow curve and growth or it could be the lock down. |
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05-03-2020, 10:56 AM | #26889 | |
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05-03-2020, 10:57 AM | #26890 | |
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05-03-2020, 10:58 AM | #26891 |
The Beast Inside Your Head
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
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I think me and a lot are to the point of saying **** it. Ill take my chances. We have a few treatments available if needed now and most are asymptomatic. I know there are others with opposing view points but we are where we are and nobody is going back.
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05-03-2020, 10:58 AM | #26892 |
In Search of a Life
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05-03-2020, 11:02 AM | #26893 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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If it's in fact the case that there's no shown passing from kids to adults, that would help with getting schools and such back. The school thing is such a tough equation with this because of so many kids getting food and general care from school they don't get at home.
My mom runs the cafeterias in the town i grew up in schools and they've been doing lunches and she set up a "take home" program during this. She's been going in and preparing meals and such that they have families come pick up if needed. They were doing 500 meals per day in a town with a population of about 3k. I'm sure there are some that don't necessarily need them, but for the most part it's needed. Sad. |
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05-03-2020, 11:05 AM | #26894 |
I love your mom
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Sturgeon Falls, Ontario
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We would need to know how accurate these antibodies tests are , some numbers just don’t explain what they are seeing in NYC, I assume the numbers will end up being lower than expected for both deaths and hospitalizations
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05-03-2020, 11:08 AM | #26895 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I think we've gotten to the point that we can say NY is just an outlier. Something has happened there thats just different. So far atleast.
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