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05-03-2020, 10:34 AM | #26866 |
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05-03-2020, 10:34 AM | #26867 | |
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05-03-2020, 10:35 AM | #26868 |
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Are you OK with that if we end up with 1.5 million deaths? Not saying it'll happen, but it's well within the range of possibilities.
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05-03-2020, 10:40 AM | #26869 | |
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And at this point doesn't it just have the feeling that the can is getting kicked down the road? Can we see a point if we keep up like we are that people who are going to get it now if we open back up won't get it 6 months or a year down the road? I don't want anyone to die from this stupid virus. But what will be the consequences if we wait too long in hopes of a cure that may or may not ever come? |
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05-03-2020, 10:41 AM | #26870 |
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Hell no. Limited reopening is the way forward, with the knowledge hot spots will go back on stricter lockdown if needed. Ramp up testing and accurate antibody tests, get reliable tests on Amazon and Wal-mart.com. Let people test at home. Yes it will have differing results, but capitalism and consumer reviews will bear out the best products. Give people the power to know what the hell is going on with their health. You either go full lock down, or empower people with knowledge and guidance.
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05-03-2020, 10:41 AM | #26871 | |
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Even then, I still just worry that in our "best case" city they're only looking at 20-30% right now, while the more rural areas of NYC are still generally < 5%. Even if you assume that you only need to hit 5%, that still means that most rural areas are going to see their deaths climb by at least 6x (and likely more) before things start to really slow down. It's just hard for me to see a scenario where we open things up to anything resembling normal without expecting the death toll to climb to 250-500k by the time it winds down. |
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05-03-2020, 10:42 AM | #26872 | |
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1.5 mil is .4% of our population. From strictly a numbers perspective it's insignificant. Unless you are part of the .4% anyway..... |
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05-03-2020, 10:43 AM | #26873 | |
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There certainly aren't any easy answers. I'm, personally, a lot more optimistic that we'll have a vaccine far earlier than 18-24 months, but it's certainly not guaranteed. |
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05-03-2020, 10:43 AM | #26874 |
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05-03-2020, 10:45 AM | #26875 |
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05-03-2020, 10:45 AM | #26876 |
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It's easy to say that when you don't know anyone who's been hit and such.
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05-03-2020, 10:46 AM | #26877 | |
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While it's harsh, those are the kinds of decisions we're really talking about here, and I wish we could just be more clear about it. For the record, I personally don't think I'm willing to throw up my hands and accept that level of death, but I don't think you're a bad person for suggesting that it wouldn't be the end of the world. |
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05-03-2020, 10:47 AM | #26878 | |
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05-03-2020, 10:48 AM | #26879 |
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05-03-2020, 10:49 AM | #26880 | |
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It's hard discussions. I had a bioethics class in my last semester of college that was all about this type of stuff. It was kind of eye opening. |
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