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07-13-2018, 03:41 PM | #2671 | |
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Moore's scouting worked, but there are components of his development that are concerning, especially since he will be prevented from loading up on Latin American talent like he did in the first go around. |
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07-13-2018, 03:44 PM | #2672 | |
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How long did we go without homering in 2013 before our savior Miguel Tejada came along? It was truly baffling. Last edited by Chiefspants; 07-13-2018 at 03:56 PM.. |
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07-13-2018, 03:50 PM | #2673 | |
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*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
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Some of it can be chalked up to developmental approach. But some of it is also misunderstanding Baseball prospects and how different a beast it is. The “elite” prospects the Royals had in the farm system in 2011 were Hosmer, Moustakas, Myers, and Lamb. That system had a crazy amount of depth, but guys like Duffy and Ventura and Chris Dwyer and etc who were on the back half of the top 100 were never expected to be superstars. John Lamb’s injury killed him as a major leaguer. Never got his fastball back, lost the special command he had. Injuries happen. Duffy was seen as a likely 3 with a 2 ceiling, never an ace. Montgomery was the same. There is no such thing as a pitching prospect is a thing for a reason, the biggest reason being that if you have 4 pitching prospects, an AVERAGE return would be for one to be at least 80 percent of what he expected, two to bust, and one to be useful but as a bullpen guy or back-end starter. An above average return would cut one of those busts out. If you’re elite at developing pitching, like the Cardinals and Rays have been, you hit on 1/2 or close to it of your pitching prospects. Compare what the Royals got out of Hosmer and Moustakas to what the Twins are getting out of their version of those two - Buxton and Sano (with Buxton being a more elite prospect by a wide margin than anyone else). It also should be noted that guys like Perez and Cain and Dyson and Holland and Herrera, all key contributors to the run, were developed into far more than it was thought they would be. Have to apply credit in those situations, too. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-13-2018 at 04:07 PM.. |
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07-13-2018, 03:55 PM | #2674 |
George Brett shit his pants
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Duncan is Peter Gammons. Peter Gammons is Duncan.
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07-13-2018, 03:58 PM | #2675 |
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07-13-2018, 03:58 PM | #2676 |
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07-13-2018, 04:09 PM | #2677 | |
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Nah, I know Peter. I’m not Peter Gammons. I’m a smarter, better looking version of Dave Cameron, without the raging ego and with the realization that analytics can’t tell me everything about Baseball and need to be combined with scouting sense. Oh, and with a less annoying voice and less caustic, asshole-ish writing style. |
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07-13-2018, 04:48 PM | #2678 | |
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07-13-2018, 04:54 PM | #2679 | |
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07-13-2018, 05:50 PM | #2680 |
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07-13-2018, 05:51 PM | #2681 | |
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For sure, he is. He’s not smart enough to be objective about his blind spots or accept that he might not know everything... or that a formula might not be able to tell him everything. |
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07-13-2018, 06:28 PM | #2682 |
George Brett shit his pants
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Brad Keller actually does suck. Just took a while. He was just pulling a Junis by making us think he might be good.
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07-13-2018, 06:36 PM | #2683 |
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Regression is a bitch
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07-13-2018, 06:38 PM | #2684 |
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Dozier looked really bad in that at bat. He was frozen
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07-13-2018, 06:41 PM | #2685 |
Wasted away again...
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