***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

If you're going to tell a business then can only operate at half capacity, which I am cool with, you also need to help them with their bills and stuff until they can operate at 100%. Then if people still don't come in that's the breaks. But you can't intentionally handicap a business then tell them tough shit.

[Fish]

Mayor Lucas: Businesses must maintain contact tracing data on all customers for 30 days, to ensure that if an outbreak occurs they can identify the people who visited. Public Health will be the only agency that has access to that data.

That'll be a mess...

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Fish

Mayor Lucas: Businesses must maintain contact tracing data on all customers for 30 days, to ensure that if an outbreak occurs they can identify the people who visited. Public Health will be the only agency that has access to that data.

That'll be a mess...

Yeah..good ****ing luck with that. I feel bad for KC citizens and businesses.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Fish

Mayor Lucas: Businesses must maintain contact tracing data on all customers for 30 days, to ensure that if an outbreak occurs they can identify the people who visited. Public Health will be the only agency that has access to that data.

That'll be a mess...

Can't we just have businesses take blood samples from all customers? Seems like it would be easier.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Fish

Mayor Lucas: Businesses must maintain contact tracing data on all customers for 30 days, to ensure that if an outbreak occurs they can identify the people who visited. Public Health will be the only agency that has access to that data.

That'll be a mess...

I can see that working like a well oiled machine.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I think we will see a boom in food trucks .

You should stop talking about stuff you have absolutely no knowledge of.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Absolutely.. Couldn't have said it better myself..

You too.

[banyon]

Originally Posted by stumppy

I can see that working like a well oiled machine.

Er yeah. "Taco Bell's Contact tracing program".

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Fish

Mayor Lucas: Businesses must maintain contact tracing data on all customers for 30 days, to ensure that if an outbreak occurs they can identify the people who visited. Public Health will be the only agency that has access to that data.

That'll be a mess...

And this is why I'm hesitant to pay up TLO.

This plan will have less than adequate 'compliance' as I highly doubt any business in the city has the capability to reliably store that data. And what happens to anyone who provides false information?

So is Q going to shut down the businesses that don't?

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by DaFace

As with any of these, I really wish they'd be more specific in their language. What does "ready" mean? I'm confident it doesn't mean that they'll have 7 billion doses of it available. It doesn't really matter if they have a vaccine that works if it can't be mass produced with speed, so these articles don't really tell me much.

India has already started producing this particular vaccine on a mass industrial scale with the hopes/belief that it will prove both safe and effective.

That being said I don’t believe the US will benefit from this until India and the UK have been inoculated. I’m just speculating, but if this proves to be the way to go hopefully BG has one of his 7 industrial sized vaccine factories already pumping out doses as well. (Not even sure they’re built yet tbh) Hate to have the remedy ready to go and people die because we waited to produce it. Cost/benefit analysis on things like this are fascinating.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You should stop talking about stuff you have absolutely no knowledge of.



You too.

You took that more seriously than it was intended.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Fish

Mayor Lucas: Businesses must maintain contact tracing data on all customers for 30 days, to ensure that if an outbreak occurs they can identify the people who visited. Public Health will be the only agency that has access to that data.

That'll be a mess...

That's probably also very illegal as well

[Fish]

I'ma need some ID for that cheesy gordita crunch, bro....

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Monticore

You took that more seriously than it was intended.

"It's just a joke bro"

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by banyon

Er yeah. "Taco Bell's Contact tracing program".

Yea, and trust us, none of this info will ever become public.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

KC staying with the 15th and will continue crippling businesses when they do open

Someone didnt even bother listening to Dr.Archer speak