Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"

[aturnis]

Anyone watch the unveil last night?



The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible.

- 0-60 in 5 sec
- 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs
- 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi
- 500 mile range
- 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge
- Guaranteed 7¢/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil
- Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road)
- 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown
- Will never need a brake change
- "Impossible" to jacknife
- Beats semis on economics day 1
- In convoy mode, beats rail on economics

300 miles of range: $150,000
500 miles of range: $180,000
Founders series: $200,000




https://youtu.be/CBTQnmUolas
The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg.

- 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars)
- 0-100 in 4.2
- 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec
- 250+ mph top speed
- 621 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling)
- 10,000 nm torque

and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars.



Also teased a rendering image of a consumer pickup truck with a normal truck in the bed.

https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Consumer Reports gives Model 3 thumbs down:

https://jalopnik.com/consumer-report...sla-1826198783

In its report, the outlet found “flaws—big flaws” in the Model 3's braking distance, controls and ride quality.

And finally, the “stiff ride, unsupportive rear seat and excessive wind noise at highway speeds” didn’t do the Model 3 any favors. The outlet argued that other competitors in the compact luxury sedan segment have a better ride quality and more comfortable rear seat.

Consumer Reports concluded that the Model’s problems outweighed its pros and couldn’t give it a recommendation, kind of an unexpected outcome for such a hugely important (particularly for Tesla) and extremely hyped vehicle. Tesla has been working like mad to even build Model 3s on time. You don’t want to put in all that effort for a car only to get not recommended by CR.

For what it's worth, CR reversed course after a software update. Crazy.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...raking-update/

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DaFace

For what it's worth, CR reversed course after a software update. Crazy.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...raking-update/

heh, Our cars have now become like Windows. Just keep them regularly patched and all is good.

[Bewbies]

I had a friend just buy a P85D last week. He took me for my first ride in a Tesla.

That was the first time I’ve ever been in a car that made everything else I’ve ever been in feel like it’s 100 years old. It was crazy, everything is familiar but they designed all of it to be/look/feel like something unfamiliar too. If someone told you it came from 25-30 years in the future and you’d never heard of them before you’d believe it.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DaFace

For what it's worth, CR reversed course after a software update. Crazy.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...raking-update/

That was fast.
Makes me wonder how the issue wasn't detected and the patch applied prior to releasing the units and what else is being missed or passed on.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

heh, Our cars have now become like Windows. Just keep them regularly patched and all is good.

Goddamned mother****ing Deere has been that way for years.

Couple years ago I dropped 300 large on a lightly used sprayer that had to go back to the shop for 2 days before I sprayed the first acre to un**** a bunch of updates and shit.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Goddamned mother****ing Deere has been that way for years.

Couple years ago I dropped 300 large on a lightly used sprayer that had to go back to the shop for 2 days before I sprayed the first acre to un**** a bunch of updates and shit.

It's not just Deere. I NEVER update right after they release new software. About the second time that shit cost me hours and hours of down time I said **** that and left it up to other people to be their test subjects.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by ghak99

It's not just Deere. I NEVER update right after they release new software. About the second time that shit cost me hours and hours of down time I said **** that and left it up to other people to be their test subjects.

Same here.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

heh, Our cars have now become like Windows. Just keep them regularly patched and all is good.

Awesome. Tesla is stealing Microsoft's old motto:

Where quality is job 1.1

If your car is released with software bugs, what could possibly go wrong?

[DaFace]

Looks like Elon's turning his creative attention toward the pickup truck. It's gotta be at least 4-5 years out, but this is an interesting feature to think about.

Pickup truck will have power outlets allowing use of heavy duty 240V, high power tools in field all day. No generator needed.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 26, 2018

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Looks like Elon's turning his creative attention toward the pickup truck. It's gotta be at least 4-5 years out, but this is an interesting feature to think about.

Pickup truck will have power outlets allowing use of heavy duty 240V, high power tools in field all day. No generator needed.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 26, 2018

I don't think he can come up with enough batteries to run pipeline welders and shit. Those things make an electric meter sing.

EDIT: The suspension thing is absolutely necessary. I have no idea why they don't use air suspensions in pickups right ****ing now. (They should)

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I don't think he can come up with enough batteries to run pipeline welders and shit. Those things make an electric meter sing.

EDIT: The suspension thing is absolutely necessary. I have no idea why they don't use air suspensions in pickups right ****ing now. (They should)

Any idea what kind of juice one of those things draws? I'd imagine it would be a lot, but I could buy that a 100 KWh battery would be able to power one for a short time at least.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Any idea what kind of juice one of those things draws? I'd imagine it would be a lot, but I could buy that a 100 KWh battery would be able to power one for a short time at least.

Man, I always screw up the math with electricity.

We have this job on a trailer, which is what he'd want to be attaching to a truck.

https://www.millerwelds.com/-/media/...4/c/ed4-75.pdf

I think what this is saying is 24 V @ 350 A. And if my math (The conversion calculator LOL) is right, that's 7.8 KW. So say you're welding 45 minutes out of an hour, and you work 10 hours, that would be almost 60 KW, so depending on how long the drive is, that would take a good portion of the battery.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Looks like Elon's turning his creative attention toward the pickup truck. It's gotta be at least 4-5 years out, but this is an interesting feature to think about.

Pickup truck will have power outlets allowing use of heavy duty 240V, high power tools in field all day. No generator needed.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 26, 2018

He is an absolute savant on the conceptual side.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Man, I always screw up the math with electricity.

We have this job on a trailer, which is what he'd want to be attaching to a truck.

https://www.millerwelds.com/-/media/...4/c/ed4-75.pdf

I think what this is saying is 24 V @ 350 A. And if my math (The conversion calculator LOL) is right, that's 7.8 KW. So say you're welding 45 minutes out of an hour, and you work 10 hours, that would be almost 60 KW, so depending on how long the drive is, that would take a good portion of the battery.

Interesting - that's actually better than I would have guessed. The Model X is probably the closest thing we have to compare to, and it gets around 2.9 miles per KWh. The truck would certainly be heavier than that, so let's assume it gets 2.0 miles per KWh. That would mean a 100 KWh battery could drive around 80 miles (40 KWh) after the usage you described above.

Mind you, I'm making the assumption that a 100 KWh battery is the minimum of what it will come with (based on other specs Elon is tweeting). That probably means we're talking about a $100k+ vehicle. So it isn't exactly going to be the vehicle of choice for your average good ol' boy.

[Couch-Potato]

Anyone here work in outside sales? Drive a company car? ...I've been tossing around the idea of a Fleet Co that leases only Tesla Vehicles with the Self Driving feature. For professional organizations moving from car allowance to fleet cars is already an established bottom line mover, imagine how much more efficient electric cars would be. But the big win is in how much more efficient your salesforce would be. Sales people are constantly juggling whether they should be on the road, phone, or computer. With this technology they can be on all three at once!