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02-15-2020, 01:28 PM | #2 | |
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I don't think there's a huge difference between Dark Side Force Users and Sith in terms of their quest for power, so we'll just agree to disagree. I would also imagine that future Star Wars properties will explore these types of relationships, making this tiny plot point moot. |
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12-30-2019, 09:17 PM | #3 |
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Lucas always said the main character in all the stories was Darth Vader. He was totally absent in these last 3 tho and I’d make the argument Palpatine is now the stories main character
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12-30-2019, 09:48 PM | #4 |
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I just want KK out of the picture entirely so we can get movies about the Old Republic.
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12-31-2019, 07:16 PM | #5 | |
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FWIW, Benioff & Weiss were initially asked to run a TV series but they were interested in doing a trilogy of films that were set 30,000 years ago or more, centered around the first awareness of The Force and its original users. The last thing Lucasfilm needs at this point in time is another huge box office disappointment and there is absolutely no doubt that a film set in the Old Republic would receive a massive backlash if it changed anything from the KOTOR games. That's not an interesting project to any B-Listers, let alone, A-Listers. |
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12-31-2019, 07:53 PM | #6 |
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Disney+ seems like a good platform for a course correction (I typed 'force correction' lol).
I'm just not sure what they can do now, film wise. Hell, what if they'd waited 5 years and done Solo as a limited series. Maybe it's a monumental success for Disney+ instead of a borderline flop in theaters. Like they're doing with Obi-wan. But now that they've exhausted the nostalgia boost from the original trilogy in the sequels, they're going to have to find a new well to draw from. But I'm not sure what they can do that would have a wide appeal. Everything we've talked about here, like the Old Republic era, is niche, not broad appeal. The trick is how to get the other 85% of the public who doesn't give a shit about video games or expanded universe/legends novels into theaters. |
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01-01-2020, 08:35 AM | #7 | |
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I think filmmakers like Tarantino after his last movie will excel at a one time 6-8 episode arc format. His first cuts are always 3.5+ hours anyway. He can flesh out the story and characters in a way that you cant in a 2 hour movie. |
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12-30-2019, 10:28 PM | #8 |
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Saw it tonight. I liked it. It was fun. Abrams certainly knows how to keep a movie propelling forward.
I just didn’t understand a lot of it. How did Palpatine rise from the dead? He was just hanging out building a massive hidden fleet for years? And where did he recruit a massive army of people to be loyal to him? why would you be loyal to this evil undead asshole again?? |
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12-31-2019, 07:04 PM | #9 | |
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The Sith followers built the fleet, which was also hidden on Exogol. Personally, I like the idea of his resurrection via Sith Black Magic and the Dark Side, which "Is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural", as opposed to him just transferring his spirit into multiple clones over the years. |
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12-31-2019, 08:45 PM | #10 | |
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Have you heard anything about this? The speculation out there is that they changed the ending. Kylo was originally going to live and it was him who was the ‘Rise is Skywalker’. Not Rey. If that’s true, glad they changed it. I like this ending Better.
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12-31-2019, 01:48 AM | #11 |
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I just don’t like the... well palpatine was behind everything! “Curtain drop”. Felt like a corny sat cartoon episode.
Jj made an interesting film and let’s not deny the visuals weren’t stunning |
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12-31-2019, 06:46 AM | #12 |
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Best thing about this movie to me was the entire Finn, Poe and Rey relationship. Glad they put that front and center. They absolutely nailed the casting with these guys. I like them and enjoy spending time with them. Every scene they were all together was a lot of fun.
I even like Adam Drivers Kylo a lot too. Although, I’m not really sure why he decided to turn at that moment? I would guess Leia and Han had tried many times to get him to turn back? |
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12-31-2019, 05:01 PM | #13 | |
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No. Just, no. There was more chemistry with three kids who knew jack and shit about acting in the original Harry Potter. |
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01-01-2020, 01:05 AM | #14 |
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TFA Finn and Rey were more interesting....after that they went to shit. No emotions, no real good interaction at all. Just terrible characters that I didn't really care about.
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12-31-2019, 07:07 PM | #15 | |
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He also felt guilt about killing his father, Han Solo, which is what that scene represented. |
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