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David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.
The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday. I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback. Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1). Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season. September: 92.0 October: 111.1 November: 63.5 Dec.-Jan.: 68.8 The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses. I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses. It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-limits-chiefs |
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11-23-2017, 02:04 PM | #241 | |
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11-23-2017, 02:33 PM | #242 |
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Iron sharpening iron.
Anyone who doesn't count that factor in to the overall team output over the course of a season is a damned fool. Sad but true. |
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11-23-2017, 02:59 PM | #243 | |
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I dont see much if any downside because I dont see this team as a legit threat to do anything meaningful. Its possible if he had a bad first outing the team could pack it in, but I keep coming back to I dont see this team doing anything in January anyway even if we hang onto the division lead for a playoff spot. Its also possible he could surprise in a good way and give this offense a boost, pumping life back into a possible playoff run, but Id still be cautious with that talk. For me its more about getting the needed game day experience NOW instead of next season being the first time he sees real action. They will probably win the next two, three games, basically securing a playoff spot and that will quiet down the QB talk. |
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11-23-2017, 03:38 PM | #244 | |
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If I'm Derrick Johnson or Tamba Hali, I want to change from the norm of the last 12-13 years and throw the kid in who just might make the offense truly explosive. |
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11-23-2017, 03:48 PM | #245 | |
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You're just a typical moron fan. You think the only thing that matters is the QB. No other position in football is important. It's why 95% of posts on CP are about Smitty. You uneducated fans think because in Madden you can win with the Browns when you have Tom Brady that's how it works in real life. Guess what? It doesn't. Stick to Madden and fantasy football guys. Discussing real football isn't for you. |
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11-23-2017, 03:52 PM | #246 | |
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There are a lot of mitigating factors into keeping alex as starter until either eliminated from playoff contention, injury or worsening play. |
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11-23-2017, 03:54 PM | #247 | |
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11-23-2017, 04:44 PM | #248 | |
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11-23-2017, 04:47 PM | #249 | |
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That's a fair measuring stick. |
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11-23-2017, 05:17 PM | #250 |
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In Regards to Cold Weather and Rookie QB's
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11-23-2017, 05:31 PM | #251 |
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11-23-2017, 06:00 PM | #252 |
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Is PAChiefsguy Penbrook?
I hope to hell there aren't 2 people that stupid on the planet. |
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11-23-2017, 06:02 PM | #253 |
Bono & Grbac wasn't enough
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11-23-2017, 07:21 PM | #254 | |
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I'm also saying that you have ZERO understanding and experience in team-building be it in business or sports. You don't understand the dynamic involved THERE EITHER. As far as I can tell, is YOU who are in fact the dumbassed football fan who may possibly be able to spout stats and assignments, but you know NOTHING about the dynamics of the game. |
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11-23-2017, 07:23 PM | #255 | |
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