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03-28-2019, 11:08 AM | #241 |
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So all this talk about the Cardinals farm system and pitching, is it actually good or is that just Cards talk spin?
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03-28-2019, 11:11 AM | #242 | |
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Bader's exactly where he should be against righties unless/until he shows some ability to lay off breaking balls in the dirt. Wong is a wild card until he isn't. That's a good lineup. For now. |
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03-28-2019, 11:14 AM | #243 | |
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It's the same way in the OF. |
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03-28-2019, 11:15 AM | #244 |
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Also, wtf? LG doesn't support MLB.tv anymore? Wish they would have told me that before they automatically renewed my subscription.
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03-28-2019, 11:18 AM | #245 | |
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The pitching high end guys are hopefully just now getting to the big club so that should help. |
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03-28-2019, 11:20 AM | #246 | |
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But with pitching, quantity has a quality of its own. Guys get hurt and relievers are volatile as hell. When you know that 1 or 2 guys you counted on in the bullpen will likely be ineffective and another 1 or 2 guys in your rotation will likely be injured/ineffective at some point, having 3-4 guys that you trust to come in and be league average is huge. Especially when league average starting pitching cost $12-$14 million/season and 8th inning guys cost $8-9 million. |
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03-28-2019, 11:20 AM | #247 | |
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It’s good but don’t think it has a bunch of obvious high-end/high-upside talent. Gorman and Nunez could be star hitters but are really far away from the show. |
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03-28-2019, 11:26 AM | #248 | |
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Now you can generally guess that 1/2 of those guys will wash out entirely and at least one of the other ones will disappoint. But when you have 4 guys with potential 5 win bats parked in the low minors, you really like your odds of getting at least one impact hitter out of that lot. It's pretty far removed from the days where we had Drew down there and were waiting on him. Then Rasmus. Then Taveras. We have usually had one premier hitting prospect in our low minors that we followed with baited breath in the hopes that they develop perfectly. Then we'd get to overrating someone like Evan Mendoza and calling him a possible All-Star. Right now we have numbers we can throw at it and that's a biiiiiig difference. A guy like Mendoza is someone that a honk such as myself says "man, just see if you can get some solid innings at SS with him, pump his value in the Tx league and trade his ass for a lefty reliever with a couple years of control..." This system could explode up the rankings next season if even 2 of those guys do well in full-season ball (or a taste of a full season level), especially if Carlson puts himself into the top 50 conversation as I expect he will. |
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03-28-2019, 11:33 AM | #249 |
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Thanks guys.
The rate at which they can't develop bats has been fun to see. On opposite day. |
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03-28-2019, 12:28 PM | #250 |
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No system has ever had four 5-win bats in it
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03-28-2019, 12:32 PM | #251 |
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Holy shit, Wong crushed that ball.
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03-28-2019, 12:35 PM | #252 |
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03-28-2019, 12:44 PM | #253 |
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That other fun trade from last year - Voit just hit a 3 run HR.
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03-28-2019, 01:05 PM | #254 |
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The max fWAR from the Royals all-time best 2011 system was only 4.1 (Hoz 2017). Altho, Whit was 5.2 last year so anything is possible.
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03-28-2019, 01:35 PM | #255 |
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Why does this team struggle so hard to get pitchers out? Year after year it seems. Chacin is 2-2 with a HR today.
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