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07-31-2018, 01:38 PM | #2506 | |
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I could see in the past of keeping a player because if they left through FA you’d get a 1st rounder. We have Wacha, Flaherty etc with those 1st rounders. But now that’s changed, you need to move players who have skills that are valued by other teams but that you have other players that can take their spots in the prospect order of things. They must be better about moving players before their value drops. Like in this case today, surely you can get a good prospect for Norris. In 6 weeks your not getting shit for him. Jose Martinez surely has value to an AL team? |
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07-31-2018, 01:44 PM | #2507 |
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07-31-2018, 01:45 PM | #2508 |
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Archer to the Pirates
Dozier to the Dodgers |
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07-31-2018, 01:47 PM | #2509 |
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Glasnow is a lot of potential, as is Meadows. That's a heck of a package to surrender for an Ace in reputation only.
Glad we weren't involved in that. An equivalent package from us is probably O'Neill, Hudson and maybe someone like Junior Fernandez (who I don't like but he has asset value). |
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07-31-2018, 01:50 PM | #2510 | |
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And **** us getting involved if that was the package to give up. My rays fan buddy I bet is happy now. |
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07-31-2018, 01:57 PM | #2511 | |
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I mean prospects are prospects and at least Joe Musgrove (in the Cole deal) is probably a major leaguer for a few more years, so there's that. And there's no way to know how well this deal actually turns out - Meadows could bust in his own right. But if I were assigning a numerical value to each of the players moved at the time they were moved, I'd say that the Pirates got less for Cole than they gave for Archer (and that's with the 3rd piece still pending, though he's probably like the Ramirez kid we got in the Pham deal - a fungible long-relief arm sort). |
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07-31-2018, 02:00 PM | #2512 | |
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07-31-2018, 02:01 PM | #2513 |
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If he thinks they got anything more than a borderline #2 starter and #3 on a legitimate contender, I would say that he's probably operating from a faulty premise...
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07-31-2018, 02:07 PM | #2514 |
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Past the deadline now and not looking great for another trade of someone like Norris...
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07-31-2018, 02:11 PM | #2515 |
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07-31-2018, 02:12 PM | #2516 |
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Brewers getting Jonathan Schoop from BAL. He started off the year horribly after a breakout 2017 but has rebounded decently in the past month.
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07-31-2018, 02:12 PM | #2517 | |
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07-31-2018, 02:13 PM | #2518 |
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Saw that one and figured Norris had to be worth something. He’s having a decent year and seems just like the type of vet reliever teams usually trade for to fill out their pen for the final stretch.
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07-31-2018, 02:16 PM | #2519 |
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They think this team can win in 2019.
They're fools. You've gotta move Norris at least, and have serious inquires about Mikolas and Martinez. I would go out and buy Pham stock right now. He's hitting the ball just as hard as he was last year (where he got lucky), but his luck has inverted this year. Expect a late season bounceback. Not as severe as Carpenter's streak, but I would bet he hits .280-.300 with another 7-10 bombs before the season is over. |
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07-31-2018, 02:20 PM | #2520 | |
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A great example of the missed opportunities to sell high on a player that Mo just let’s slip away. |
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