***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[limested]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Same as you. I use an inhaler the times I get sick and that's basically it.

Not sure your age but I do have "youth" on my side I suppose.

All the best to you.

I am 45 but in best shape physically of my entire life.

Stay safe!

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by limested

Mine is fully under control and i only use a rescue inhaler a few times a year.

Once all this became ‘real’ I got everything in order assuming if I were to get it then high chance of it being the end.

Fun thing to have to put on a hero face for when the kids ask what would happen to dad if he got this.

Originally Posted by lewdog

Same as you. I use an inhaler the times I get sick and that's basically it.

Not sure your age but I do have "youth" on my side I suppose.

All the best to you.

Someone posted this article the other day I think showing that asthma wasn’t necessarily one of the top fatal risks like they once thought. Just thought I’d repost it to try to spread a little peace of mind.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/h...thma-risk.html

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

If that’s the case go ahead and dose me up with the California version

It is an interesting theory. There is definitely something with this virus that hits people hard and others they don't know they even had it. Different strains, genetics, previous vaccinations, blood type, who knows. It does seem to hit the African American communities the hardest it seems at least here in the US.

[Titty Meat]

Its just frustrating because we have no clear plans on how to handle it going forward. We have more testing but doesnt appear to be targeted. We open up in phases then what? As been discussed the virus isnt going away so when numbers "peak" again then what? We say **** it and close again?

[Titty Meat]

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[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Seriously though, even if you have it you will be fine dude. Did you hear The Saints head coach about this? The media would have people think this is a death sentence when in reality as much as people don't want to hear it, it's gonna be like having the flu. Hopefully not even that bad.

You may be right about the younger people though but those with pre-existing conditions and older people as we know are at huge risk. And we have a ton of those in this country.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Its just frustrating because we have no clear plans on how to handle it going forward. We have more testing but doesnt appear to be targeted. We open up in phases then what? As been discussed the virus isnt going away so when numbers "peak" again then what? We say **** it and close again?

I'm fine with everywhere opening up actually, just mandating use of masks for everyone. In fact, IF you could guarantee that everyone who goes somewhere publicly wore a mask, it would probably even be better than what we are doing now. Clearly even if u said to fine ppl 10k for not having a mask ppl s till wouldn't do it 100% but if you open up, this is what you need to do.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by notorious

Mother ****er.

There are going to be a lot of relieved people. There are also going to be a shitload of people pissed off from the over-reaction.

Huh? If this is the case, wouldn't social distancing be MORE important? Since so many infected people won't know they have it even.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You may be right about the younger people though but those with pre-existing conditions and older people as we know are at huge risk. And we have a ton of those in this country.

We dont currently have the ability to isolate like that. We dont even have enough testing to know who and who doesnt have it.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm fine with everywhere opening up actually, just mandating use of masks for everyone. In fact, IF you could guarantee that everyone who goes somewhere publicly wore a mask, it would probably even be better than what we are doing now. Clearly even if u said to fine ppl 10k for not having a mask ppl s till wouldn't do it 100% but if you open up, this is what you need to do.

How does that help restaurants? Hard to eat with a mask on.

[dirk digler]

He is exactly right. China physically locked everyone down in Wuhan which is impossible elsewhere. This is going to be a very long descent.

Some models like closely watched IHME predict a symmetric epidemic curve, where slope of decline is proportional to slope of the rise. That was mostly the case in China, but not in Italy. And it won't be the case in U.S. Our decline will be far more gradual, similar to Italy. 2/n pic.twitter.com/PjQ5bQ4RNs

— Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD) April 26, 2020

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

How does that help restaurants? Hard to eat with a mask on.

Gyms as well. Nobody is going to workout w a mask on. Well maybe some ppl will but very few

[Titty Meat]

So much for that


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-adds-to-risks

[notorious]

“may adopt”

4th and 5th words into the article.....

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It is an interesting theory. There is definitely something with this virus that hits people hard and others they don't know they even had it. Different strains, genetics, previous vaccinations, blood type, who knows. It does seem to hit the African American communities the hardest it seems at least here in the US.

not claiming any conclusions by any means.....but I tried looking categories that are supposedly more susceptible (immunocompromised for example), and couldnt find stats on race.

Here are diabetes stats in the US, by race:

7.5% of non-Hispanic whites
9.2% of Asian Americans
12.5% of Hispanics
11.7% of non-Hispanic blacks
14.7% of American Indians/Alaskan Natives