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12-20-2017, 11:29 PM | #2431 | |
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[QUOTE=RINGLEADER;13299832]he did his own thing that just doesn’t fit within that story. [/qoute]
How does it not fit? It doesn't fit within many fan theories about what was going to happen, but fits just fine connected to TFA. Quote:
What rules were broken again? Johnson worked with Lucas' guy that has his finger directly on the pulse of what does and does not fall within the universe and he approved everything. |
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12-21-2017, 01:34 AM | #2432 |
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12-21-2017, 01:56 AM | #2433 |
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12-21-2017, 02:04 AM | #2434 |
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Not even close Luke was having trouble envisioning the training blaster, and in all intents purposes was a weak bitch compared what Rey did from VII to VIII. She was being thrown around by Ben at 1st then second meet they were on equal footing, even though Ben had YEARS of training
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12-21-2017, 05:01 AM | #2435 | |
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12-21-2017, 09:14 AM | #2436 |
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Wow, epic level of bitching on this thread. I saw it last night and I enjoyed it a lot. I get amused by all the vitriol spewed by haters on the internet. Some people don't know how to have fun. Was it perfect? No. Was it very enjoyable sci-fi with characters I love? Yes.
I just don't get some of the bitching. Luke was always a whiny dude, big surprise he's now a crusty old man. Rey only beat KR in TFA because he was wounded and he was mentally and emotionally shattered by having just killed his own dad, snokes even mentions it in this movie. The humor was fine, Star Wars has always mixed in a lot of silly humor. This was a lot better than the comic relief of Jar Jar. Expanding the force abilities is also consistent. The Jedi in the prequels were powerful, but not all that much since they couldn't sense the sith or even Annakin getting married and having kids. In the original trilogy, the force was used in all kinds of ways beyond the prequels such as Luke visions while training, and dead people talking to him and appearing to him. Is it that hard to believe that a magical force that moves objects with mind power and allows communication with the dead can float a chick through space or allow visual communication across space? Some people just need to lighten the F up. |
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12-21-2017, 09:16 AM | #2437 | |
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It could easily be subverted. |
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12-21-2017, 09:53 AM | #2438 | ||
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12-21-2017, 10:24 AM | #2439 |
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Rian didn't make that decision, though.
That was JJ. HE stuck him on that island. Rian gave us a viable character arc and an amazing finish from that setting. There isn't a shred of drama if Luke is like "hey, look, my old lightsaber, let's go KICK ASS young rey!" |
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12-21-2017, 10:26 AM | #2440 | |
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Just like Luke in Episode IV. Get over it. |
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12-21-2017, 10:33 AM | #2441 |
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12-21-2017, 10:43 AM | #2442 | |
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Rey finding Luke on Ach-To could have gone many different ways, from Luke explaining that he sought to find the first Jedi Temple in order to defeat Snoke and Kylo Ren, to explaining that he sought to find the Tree of Knowledge (which is what it was, figuratively speaking) so that he could create a better Jedi Order or to the creation of a new order of Force users, etc. It wasn't necessary for Luke to be a dour man, hiding from the situation that he partially created while refusing to help his sister, The Resistance and the galaxy. But that was Rian Johnson's decision and some people hate the film because of it and it's pretty clear that Mark Hamill doesn't like this characterization, either. |
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12-21-2017, 11:17 AM | #2443 |
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12-21-2017, 11:31 AM | #2444 | |
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But JJ just had to have his mystery box, and as per usual, didn't plot out the consequences his mystery would have on the overall story. Rian picked up JJ's loose thread and stitched it up beautifully. |
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12-21-2017, 11:33 AM | #2445 |
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Going to go see it again today, this time with the kid. She's a closet nerd, so I'm interested in what she's going to think about it.
After the first viewing, the two main things I couldn't stand were the slow motion chase through space and the way Luke went out. I'll see if my reaction changes on a second viewing (NOT 3D this time) and try to pick up all the little eggs I missed the first time through. |
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