***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Wow, I guess I missed the story about the incident.

Yep 22k worth of damage to the truck.

Over 100k in my hand at this point. Not including the tendon I cut when it slipped off a ratchet because the nerves go crazy...

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Yep 22k worth of damage to the truck.

Over 100k in my hand at this point. Not including the tendon I cut when it slipped off a ratchet because the nerves go crazy...

Jesus.. Glad you okay..

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Yep 22k worth of damage to the truck.

Over 100k in my hand at this point. Not including the tendon I cut when it slipped off a ratchet because the nerves go crazy...

WOW, sorry to hear that dude.

[petegz28]

Well one thing isn't debatable and that's the growing lines of cars at food banks. That's ****ing insane.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bwana

WOW, sorry to hear that dude.

It sucks.
Of course it’s my right hand too. Tendon came out great though lol.
The oh shit handle went between my index and middle finger and totally screwed the ganglion nerve that runs through there.

The cut stopped just before the middle finger tendon on the back of my hand.

The insurance company can’t blame the issues on the cut.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well one thing isn't debatable and that's the growing lines of cars at food banks. That's ****ing insane.

It’s holly shit insane

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Jesus.. Glad you okay..

I was eating. Lucky I didn’t have a fork stuck in my mouth. Had gone into the restaurant to get the food and didn’t seatbelt back on. My wife got done eating first and wanted to go two blocks for a coffee. What could go wrong?

Well some asshole can decide he should get in that parking lot through you.

Hit the windshield too. 4 inch gash on the forehead straight to the bone. Funny thing is it is almost an exact mirror image of the one in the other side I got from a pool cue the year before

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

It’s holly shit insane

Which is why one way or the other we have to start opening things up. Not saying just blast it open of course but we can't keep this up.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I was eating. Lucky I didn’t have a fork stuck in my mouth. Had gone into the restaurant to get the food and didn’t seatbelt back on. My wife got done eating first and wanted to go two blocks for a coffee. What could go wrong?

Well some asshole can decide he should get in that parking lot through you.

Hit the windshield too. 4 inch gash on the forehead straight to the bone. Funny thing is it is almost an exact mirror image of the one in the other side I got from a pool cue the year before

That is pretty brutal sorry to hear. It just seems so foreign to me to have a cost associated to an injury , don't get me wrong our system has some faults as well .

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How can you cut someone's hair if they're wearing a mask?

How can you cut someone's hair if the city and/or state require people to be 6 feet apart?

You're making an issue out of something that at this point in time, isn't even possible and if you break those orders, the owner/stylist is most definitely liable.

Obviously the local restrictions on social distancing will have to be eased first, as is being done in Georgia.

But if you are buying into the unrealistic idea that social distancing will be required until there is a vaccine, then you can pretty much forget about getting a “safe” haircut for at least two years or ever.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I was eating. Lucky I didn’t have a fork stuck in my mouth. Had gone into the restaurant to get the food and didn’t seatbelt back on. My wife got done eating first and wanted to go two blocks for a coffee. What could go wrong?

Well some asshole can decide he should get in that parking lot through you.

Hit the windshield too. 4 inch gash on the forehead straight to the bone. Funny thing is it is almost an exact mirror image of the one in the other side I got from a pool cue the year before

Well at least you have matching scars.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Well at least you have matching scars.

And with where they both are they cut the nerves to the top of my head. So it’s all numb now too.


But hey there’s always good to be found. After they diagnosed me ( almost a year into this) I decided it was going to be too much for me to handle myself and hired a lawyer. She sent a letter inquiring as to his limits because my bills are racking up ( three doctors agreeing independently wasn’t enough) and he just happens to be worth several million dollars and has a million in blanket liability insurance.

So I should come out ok but they are going to try and starve me out first

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Which is why one way or the other we have to start opening things up. Not saying just blast it open of course but we can't keep this up.

Oklahoma finally manning up and opening it up. Personal care businesses, elective surgeries this Friday. It’s amazing what losing 179k jobs does to a state’s budget shortfall.

Gyms, restaurant dining rooms, movie theaters next Friday.

[SAUTO]

Looks like we may get in here under 2k deaths today. Fingers crossed

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

Oklahoma finally manning up and opening it up. Personal care businesses, elective surgeries this Friday. It’s amazing what losing 179k jobs does to a state’s budget shortfall.

Gyms, restaurant dining rooms, movie theaters next Friday.

I wish them luck.