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Old 07-25-2017, 12:10 PM  
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:09 PM   #2356
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How do we know Bray sucks? He has yet to play in a game. People thought Dak wasn't that great coming out of college and look how that turned out.
How do you know that he doesn't?

He wasn't drafted, he has only climbed the depth chart by virtue of the guy in front of him departing the team and they felt confident enough about him to quickly sign Nick Foles the moment the Rams released him.

He threw some deep passes that made the Never Alex clique fawn and not much of shit beyond that. He's going into Year 5; what makes you seem confident that he's going to win that #2 spot?
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:10 PM   #2357
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It's pretty straight, Dane.

Alex isn't going to tilt the needle one way or another. He manages the game to let the team do a lot of the lifting.

Bray sucks and will lose games. Pretty straight forward.
Yeah, and Daniel "sucked", too.



Andy will find a way to scheme around any QB's deficiencies, just like has for more than a decade.

AJ Feeley led the Eagles to a 4-0 record when McNabb was injured.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:11 PM   #2358
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How do we know Bray sucks? He has yet to play in a game. People thought Dak wasn't that great coming out of college and look how that turned out.
I'll tell you why we know he sucks - because even Mr. Tomahawk isn't in here fluffing him up. That's when you know there's no hope for Bray.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:13 PM   #2359
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Yeah, and Daniel "sucked", too.



Andy will find a way to scheme around any QB's deficiencies, just like has for more than a decade.

AJ Feeley led the Eagles to a 5-0 record when McNabb was injured.
Daniel was a shorter, fatter Alex and was pretty damn smart. Bray is a million dollar arm with a 5 cent brain.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:13 PM   #2360
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How do you know that he doesn't?

He wasn't drafted, he has only climbed the depth chart by virtue of the guy in front of him departing the team and they felt confident enough about him to quickly sign Nick Foles the moment the Rams released him.

He threw some deep passes that made the Never Alex clique fawn and not much of shit beyond that. He's going into Year 5; what makes you seem confident that he's going to win that #2 spot?
He had all the talent in the world in college. Talent alone was a second round pick. His struggles were learning the playbook and his focus. I would have to think the Chiefs see something in Bray or else they wouldn't of kept him around for 5 years
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:15 PM   #2361
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Daniel was a shorter, fatter Alex and was pretty damn smart. Bray is a million dollar arm with a 5 cent brain.
AJ Feeley went 4-0 and was flipped for a 2nd round pick, then did nothing without Reid.

You severely underestimate Reid's ability to scheme for his players.

And you're speaking in massive hypotheticals.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:17 PM   #2362
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He had all the talent in the world in college. Talent alone was a second round pick. His struggles were learning the playbook and his focus. I would have to think the Chiefs see something in Bray or else they wouldn't of kept him around for 5 years


Tyler Bray was a beanpole that had a strong arm and he played in the SEC. That's pretty much it.

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AJ Feeley went 4-0 and was flipped for a 2nd round pick, then did nothing without Reid.

You severely underestimate Reid's ability to scheme for his players.

And you're speaking in massive hypotheticals.
That was a great Houdini act by Andy, but I think Feeley got sent to Miami to play for ****ing Dave Wannstedt. I don't think any QB was really gonna be successful playing for that tool.

You're assuming Reid can do a Houdini with every QB he handles and sometimes it doesn't work out.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:18 PM   #2363
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I've never been real crazy about Bray. He was always a pretty raw QB. Not a huge fan of his footwork... but to be fair Mahomes does some of the same things. That back foot not stepping into the throw thing usually gets you killed if your name is not Aaron Rodgers. Mahomes does it a lot.

The only difference is I trust Reid to ride him pretty hard to make smart decisions. To be honest if we had a different coach I'd actually be somewhat worried about drafting a guy like Mahomes. But he's got the tools and a coach who can try to get the best out of them, so he's got a chance.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:19 PM   #2364
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Tyler Bray was a beanpole that had a strong arm and he played in the SEC. That's pretty much it.
And Clay wanted him in the 1st round.

Regardless, this is his fifth year with the Chiefs.

He's not a 21 year old kid anymore.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:20 PM   #2365
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Tyler Bray was a beanpole that had a strong arm and he played in the SEC. That's pretty much it.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dr...couting-report

He was compared to a less athletic version of Matthew Stafford coming out of college. Imagine our offense with Stafford
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:22 PM   #2366
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He was compared to a less athletic version of Matthew Stafford coming out of college. Imagine our offense with Stafford
What a stupid article that was. He's not like Stafford in a lot of ways.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:23 PM   #2367
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What a stupid article that was. He's not like Stafford in a lot of ways.
Talent wise yes. Maturity and mental aspect of the game, no.
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He was compared to a less athletic version of Matthew Stafford coming out of college. Imagine our offense with Stafford
Come on man. Stafford was one of the best prospects in a decade. The #1 pick in the draft. Bray wasn't even drafted. Bray was wildly inconsistent in college, had poor footwork and wasn't anywhere near Stafford. The only thing they had in common was a huge arm. But Stafford's arm is pretty great.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:24 PM   #2369
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What a stupid article that was. He's not like Stafford in a lot of ways.


No shit. Good god, I don't remember penbrook ever being on such a weird tangent.
Maybe I just wasn't paying attention all this time.
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