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01-19-2019, 05:40 PM | #2356 |
Champion Golfer Of The Year
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Good to see the name 'Steve Grogan". Watched many of his games at Kansas State. Guy was tough as nails and played on some terrible teams at KSU.
Saw him and Ottawa win the 71 KSHAA championship. Yea, I'm old. |
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01-19-2019, 05:41 PM | #2357 |
MVP
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01-19-2019, 05:42 PM | #2358 | |
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Location: Back in K.C. baby!!!!
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01-19-2019, 05:45 PM | #2359 |
I don’t care for Auburn
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01-19-2019, 05:46 PM | #2360 |
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01-19-2019, 05:54 PM | #2361 |
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Mahomes has had a great year for a first year QB but this is kind of a pointless discussion because among the HOF caliber QB's who has
1) played in an era where it is this damn easy to pass throughout the entire league. -- receivers and Qb's more protected than ever and 16 game season instead of 14 in the distant past 2) inherited the keys to an offense with one of the best receiving cores in the NFL 3) been drafted and handed the keys by a very good playoff team the first year he is starting and a coach willing to throw the ball Mahome's has been operating with a Ferrari(Hill) and a couple of BMWs on offense most of this year while many other legendary qb's didn't start off with much. |
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01-19-2019, 05:57 PM | #2362 |
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
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BELIEVE. BELIEVE. BELIEVE.
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01-19-2019, 06:15 PM | #2363 |
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Okay, I'll be returning to Pats Fans now to get hyped with my fellow fans but I will be back tomorrow to congratulate you guys if you win and I will return during any Pats/Chiefs games. You guys have been classy to me and appreciate it.
One more time: Good luck! |
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01-19-2019, 06:18 PM | #2364 |
'Tis my eye!
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01-19-2019, 06:19 PM | #2365 | |
'Tis my eye!
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01-19-2019, 06:20 PM | #2366 |
Banned
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01-19-2019, 06:24 PM | #2367 |
Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
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The Faketriots have arrived...
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01-19-2019, 06:28 PM | #2368 | |
Shoot the tube
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01-19-2019, 06:34 PM | #2369 | |
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Grogan was super tough so it made Tony Eason look really bad in comparison. I still remember a play one year where the Patriots season was over without a first down on a 4th down scenario. Pass rush on Tony Eason and he ducks to protect himself so he survives the sack much better. Game over and from what I remember season over. Eason had that half of a second to see oncoming rush but not enough time to spot an open receiver. Grogan in that end of the year scenario would have just thrown the ball up for grabs even if there was just a 2% chance a Patriots player catches it for a first down. Grogan played after suffering from a crazy amount of injuries. Almost won a Super Bowl with the Patriots in the 1970's but Patriots lost due to a very controversial roughing the passer called that even Raiders players admit was rarely called. Shell of himself from age/injuries vs the Bears in 86 Super Bowl. |
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01-19-2019, 06:35 PM | #2370 |
Dazed and Confused
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