***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

There are several studies looking at all kinds of combinations, including zinc with the HQ and Zpak and just HQ and zinc, and for patients first diagnosed to late stages. We should know a lot more in the next few weeks, lot of people wanting this to fail, not just because of politics, but because of the cost effectiveness. Hopefully it will because it is the most scaleable and cheapest alternative for the combo, if not, there are some other promising ones.

I still think we are probably not going to get something that can help with this wave, hopefully they can figure something out if we get another one.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I still think we are probably not going to get something that can help with this wave, hopefully they can figure something out if we get another one.

South Dakota enacted a statewide clinical trial a week ago. Hopefully we'll get a definitive answer one way or the other but it definitely won't help this wave.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

So once its reported by who? Give me a list of approved sources. Because all I did was post what I thought was interesting in relation to CoronaVirus.

The information wasnt leaked by 4-Chan. It was leaked by someone else, i just saw it on 4-chan.

4-Chan was started by furries kicked off Something Awful. Just so you know.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Deaths rose to a new single-day high in our dataset.

Because of weekend reporting lags, Tuesday numbers have set new highs (to that date) throughout April.

Tues 4/21: 2,674 deaths
Tues 4/14: 2,299 deaths
Tues 4/7: 1,926 deaths
Tues 3/31: 820 deaths pic.twitter.com/WrDAZkCuLF

— The COVID Tracking Project (@COVID19Tracking) April 21, 2020

Weekend reporting lags huh?

[TLO]

I guess Missouri isn't going to update how many people have been tested today. Whatever

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Weekend reporting lags huh?

Your shocked aren’t you?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

At this point, it looks like we actually are lucky it's not worse mortality wise than it is. It shows we're woefully underprepared for a pandemic and hopefully we can be more ready for the next one.

I think it will be like other disasters: Financial/banking crises, drought, flood, hurricane. Whoever gets hit, in this case it was the entire country, prepares like mad to be ready for it to hit again.

But if it doesn't hit again soon, focus fades and preparedness crumbles away.

So if another pandemic hits five to ten years from now, I expect the country to be in really good shape. If it takes longer, than not so much.

We need to do a better job of preparing for low probability high impact events in general. And not just prepare to fight the last war.

Can't say I'm optimistic anything goings to be different moving forward.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The Solidarity Trial is most likely to contain the best data.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Solidarity Trial is most likely to contain the best data.

What is that?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by TLO

What is that?

Five arm trial coordinated in dozens of nations by the WHO:

Standard of Care or

Standard of care +

HCQ

or

Kaletra (Boosted Lopinavir)

or

Kaletra + Interferon

or

Remdesivir

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Five arm trial coordinated in dozens of nations by the WHO:

Standard of Care or

Standard of care +

HCQ

or

Kaletra (Boosted Lopinavir)

or

Kaletra + Interferon

or

Remdesivir

Ooohhhh.

When will we have results? Not for a while I'm guessing?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by TLO

Ooohhhh.

When will we have results? Not for a while I'm guessing?

It depends. Sometimes trials are terminated early due to a clear benefit. That's your hope. These trials usually take *years*. Months would be breakneck speed, but this is unprecedented.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Monticore

We got 3 inches of snow today, jerks.

Tough shit, hoser*




*My two favorite places on earth are in Canada

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Weekend reporting lags huh?

Can't wait to see what Pete's dumbass has to say about this? My guess is he will say there's no proof and until someone in power says there is a lag, then it's just speculation.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Tough shit, hoser*




*My two favorite places on earth are in Canada

Are they both strip clubs in Montreal?