***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This is why consistent messaging from leadership matters. You can't have a chunk of people who believe it's no big deal.

Trying to say this w/o getting political - but every person in a government leadership position with a camera or microphone in front of them should have been telling people to take this seriously from the very beginning.

People complain that the media has overblown this. If anything they've done a bad job of getting the message out - if people like Gobert still thought the whole thing was a joke 2 days ago.

I know - Gobert is an idiot. But that's the whole point. Idiots exist. You can't give them wiggle room to believe things are a joke. How many idiots who aren't on major sports teams and aren't getting tested are doing the same stupid shit right now?

Lots of people think its a joke....unless you're old. I've seen that a ton.

[Sure-Oz]

@41actionnews: BREAKING: KCMO Mayor Quinton Lucas has issued a state of emergency for the city as it works to prevent the spread of COVID-19 https://buff.ly/2w47ewS

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Explain how millions should have been tested. Have there been that many that wanted or needed to be tested but no testing was available?

Many times more have wanted to be tested than have been tested. Just read this thread. It's still incredibly hard to get tested. People with symptoms but not in critical condition are being told to go home and self-isolate. Many probably do but you have to think they'd be more serious about it, and not allowing at-risk people near them, if they knew for sure they had it.

If we had adopted the WHO's test from the beginning instead of trying (and bumbling) to create our own - we'd be able to test at S. Korea level - where everyone who wants a test gets one, instantly.

From what I read, in S. Korea if you test positive they put you in the hospital immediately and isolate you to stop the spread. I haven't confirmed that though. But it would explain how their growth curve has flattened out so much

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

BREAKING: the AAC, SEC and Big Ten Tournaments have been canceled, all per releases.

— CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) March 12, 2020

[Mecca]

All of the conference tournaments are cancelled now.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So every sport is suspended except the NHL and that announcement is coming..MLB is at best going to have a delayed start...

This is going to be a boring few months.

NFL free agency can hopefully still proceed.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

NFL free agency can hopefully still proceed.

Nope Adam was just on espn made it sounds like it’s not starting on time

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This is why consistent messaging from leadership matters. You can't have a chunk of people who believe it's no big deal.

Trying to say this w/o getting political - but every person in a government leadership position with a camera or microphone in front of them should have been telling people to take this seriously from the very beginning.

People complain that the media has overblown this. If anything they've done a bad job of getting the message out - if people like Gobert still thought the whole thing was a joke 2 days ago.

I know - Gobert is an idiot. But that's the whole point. Idiots exist. You can't give them wiggle room to believe things are a joke. How many idiots who aren't on major sports teams and aren't getting tested are doing the same stupid shit right now?

Problem is, you can't get through to idiots. Plenty of examples right here on this board.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I told my sister to isolate as much as possible and her husband and kids should basically change clothes and either wash hands and face vigorously or take a shower before they come near her if they've been out around people. And she needs to become OCD cleaning woman.

I don't think she'll do it though. Her whole life revolves around those kids and being active in the community.

They also have 3 dogs and 3 cats which seem like perfect vectors for a virus to hitch a ride on. Anyone seen how long it lives on pet hair?

You typically catch the virus from droplets in the air or by touch from hard surfaces. The virus doesn't live very long on clothing, or on hair.

[Mecca]

I'm thinking the tournament is on the verge of being cancelled also.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

If NFL teams in fact shut down their training facilities, as many are now discussing, then it would be challenging at best to start the new league year next week, when buildings are closed and more pressing issues face their communities and this country. https://t.co/ReXxk5CZdH

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 12, 2020

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm thinking the tournament is on the verge of being cancelled also.

As it should

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Mecca

All of the conference tournaments are cancelled now.

The Big East isn't. But they're restricting fans. My mother in law and her husband flew to NYC for it and now have to watch it on TV.

[backinblack]

Next week’s NASCAR races in Homestead Florida have been postponed, and they are issuing a statement later today about the status of Atlanta’s(this weekend) and Texas’ races.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Why are we just canceling sports.I get they don't want to have crowds but kids sit in school all day and workers work so cancel everything.