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#2341 |
Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!!
Join Date: Aug 2005
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When will Denver's dominance over the chiefs end? I feel like they are treating us the same way we treated the Raiders in the 90's...
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#2342 | |
#triggering
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
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http://a.espncdn.com/nfl/news/1999/1003/95042.html Davis tore two knee ligaments in his knee making a tackle thanks to a Griese INT. It had nothing to do with carries or workload. So, who knows what he could have done with more time and being healthy. It's a fun debate, but I think the point the brain dead one was trying to make is that TD had a phenomenal start to his career, in comparison to the other greats listed. TD had maybe 80 more attempts in 4 years that Emmitt did... nothing too crazy there. Just saying, it wasn't the workload that led to his downfall. It was Griese. |
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#2343 | |
It’s Thriller night
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Broncos fighting & Danny Trevathan out 6-8 weeks
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I make that same argument for Jamaal Charles all the time so I'll accept it. It was just an unfortunate event, as most ACL injuries are... Still, there's no way of telling if he'd have been able to produce at that level consistently. He had a great start in one of the best situations a RB could ever ask for. He wasn't a transcendent or generational talent. He was just really good. Check the stats from the next season prior to the tear, barely averaged 3 YPC without Elway. It's possible the workload was already affecting his production. |
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#2344 |
Choco Favre
Join Date: Jul 2012
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More carries means more yards. Does it not? 1998- Terrelle Davis- 397 carries 2008 yds 5.1 ypc 2000- Mike Anderson- 297 carries 1487 yards 5.0 ypc 2002- Clinton Portis 273 carries 1508 5.5 ypc And there were a few other 1000 yard backs who weren't good that did well under Shanahan. They also weren't playing with an elite qb like Elway. It's the system not the back for the 100th time. There you go dopey. |
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#2345 |
It’s Thriller night
Join Date: Sep 2007
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KnowMo's boy Tatum Bell
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#2346 | |
#triggering
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
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And, I think it's more than just him being really good. Yes, there were other backs that came in and got 1,000 yards in that system, but they weren't as dynamic and overall productive as TD. |
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#2347 |
SuperBowl or bust
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
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Holmes was better after a hip surgery and an acl tear than Davis was completely healthy.
Neither are HOF quality backs IMO. Gotta have career longevity. |
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#2348 | |
#triggering
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
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Very gifted runner and pass catcher. Plus, Larry Johnson stepped in with 1700 yard rushing efforts and lots of catches... products of the system, really. ![]() |
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#2349 |
Broncos' Fan Extraordinaire!
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denver
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#2350 | |
It’s Thriller night
Join Date: Sep 2007
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The article that you posted, bro. The year after Elway retired Davis averaged barely over 3 YPC. He only lasted a couple games but I'd say there was a good chance he was headed for a down year after 400+ carries from the previous season. Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, Tatum Bell. Those guys are akin to a bag of smashed assholes and yet they were all 1,000 yard backs. |
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#2351 |
No Keys, No Problem
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Denver
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At no time was Priest Holmes a better, more feared, dominating running back than Davis. And that's being fair about it.
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#2352 |
No Keys, No Problem
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Denver
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Mike Anderson was a great back. Clinton Portis was a phenom....but none of them were as good as the kid from San Diego.
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#2353 | |
It’s Thriller night
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Portis averaged 5.5 YPC in his two seasons in Denver. He never averaged more than 4.3 in a season after being traded to Washington. A phenom he was not... |
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#2354 |
No Keys, No Problem
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Denver
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You didn't watch him in college then, he was amazing. I can't remember which team but he ran for something like 5 TDs one day...busted out a championship belt and everything. The problem when he went to Washington is he got paid....which is why we traded him. Definitely the most athletic back in the AFC West until Charles came along.
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#2355 | |
It’s Thriller night
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I wouldn't be so sure. I'd put Priest's 2001-2004 up against any other back's 4-year stretch for my money. He was a TD machine. He was good for nearly 700 receiving yards during his prime years. He had more career carries than Terrell Davis and yet fumbled the ball less. |
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