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Couch-Potato · 10-10-2023, 08:45 PM

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

kccrow · 03-29-2024, 04:58 PM

The one guy getting lost in this class is Xavier Weaver from Colorado. He isn't in some top-200 lists. I've been so very guilty of forgetting about him. Just went back to his tape and highlights a bit. If I'm a betting man, this kid is going before the end of the 3rd round and he's going to be a steal.

He's going to be on the Chiefs radar with that speed, I guarantee it.

JPH83 · 03-30-2024, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

The one guy getting lost in this class is Xavier Weaver from Colorado. He isn't in some top-200 lists. I've been so very guilty of forgetting about him. Just went back to his tape and highlights a bit. If I'm a betting man, this kid is going before the end of the 3rd round and he's going to be a steal.

He's going to be on the Chiefs radar with that speed, I guarantee it.

Got there ahead of me! I saw Steve Smith's breakdown and some highlights and thought he looked like an interesting late-round option if we double dip. Not sure I'd want him before the 4th but he is savvy from the little I've seen.

JPH83 · 03-30-2024, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I think I lean towards Kingsley over Morgan as well, but I still think WR will be BPA.

Agree on both counts

Chargem · 03-30-2024, 04:11 AM

This draft is just incredibly intriguing. I think you can get a guy that contributes well to your offense at WR very late in this draft, so unless you're double dipping at WR do you really want to pick one in the first?

It's BPA vs depth of draft like it is every year, but the depth this year just makes this fascinating.

Couch-Potato · 03-31-2024, 12:27 PM

Why is AD Mitchell ranked over X Legette?

...Similar stats over last 3 years, both a size and speed guys, both have questions, I feel like Legette has more home run playmaking potential.

Crucify me.

Chris Meck · 03-31-2024, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Why is AD Mitchell ranked over X Legette?

...Similar stats over last 3 years, both a size and speed guys, both have questions, I feel like Legette has more home run playmaking potential.

Crucify me.

Similar stats!? No.
. Legette did nothing for 4 years.

Couch-Potato · 03-31-2024, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Similar stats!? No.
. Legette did nothing for 4 years.

It's closer than you think...

Mitchell, 6-4, 195, 4.35
Last Season: 845, 15.4, 11 TDs
Last 3 Seasons: 1,405 & 17 TDS

Legette, 6-1, 225, 4.39
Last Season: 1,255, 17.7, 7 TDs
Last 3 Seasons: 1,485 & 11 TDs

They are both late 1st early 2nd round WRs, if you were only looking at last season's stats you might have XL above him considering run rate.

I'd say that Legette's weird production, age, and playing for a lesser program is what sets him back but I still think he showed more big-playmaking ability.

What are the on-field differences?

Couch-Potato · 03-31-2024, 02:08 PM

Heard some interesting comps for Thomas Jr on PFF podcast = MVS and/or D Robinson, both former Chiefs WRs.

Are we certain he'll be the #4 WR off the board?

Nightfyre · 03-31-2024, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

It's closer than you think...

Mitchell, 6-4, 195, 4.35
Last Season: 845, 15.4, 11 TDs
Last 3 Seasons: 1,405 & 17 TDS

Legette, 6-1, 225, 4.39
Last Season: 1,255, 17.7, 7 TDs
Last 3 Seasons: 1,485 & 11 TDs

They are both late 1st early 2nd round WRs, if you were only looking at last season's stats you might have XL above him considering run rate.

I'd say that Legette's weird production, age, and playing for a lesser program is what sets him back but I still think he showed more big-playmaking ability.

What are the on-field differences?

One of these is a Junior and one is a COVID year extension Senior. So, I think that production argument carries some hard qualifiers.

Megatron96 · 03-31-2024, 02:13 PM

Really hope Veach drafts a real WR this time and not just an athletic project that needs to learn how to be a WR. Kinda done with those.

Chris Meck · 03-31-2024, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

It's closer than you think...

Mitchell, 6-4, 195, 4.35
Last Season: 845, 15.4, 11 TDs
Last 3 Seasons: 1,405 & 17 TDS

Legette, 6-1, 225, 4.39
Last Season: 1,255, 17.7, 7 TDs
Last 3 Seasons: 1,485 & 11 TDs

They are both late 1st early 2nd round WRs, if you were only looking at last season's stats you might have XL above him considering run rate.

I'd say that Legette's weird production, age, and playing for a lesser program is what sets him back but I still think he showed more big-playmaking ability.

What are the on-field differences?

The fact that Legette had like 200 yards total the previous two years and is what, two years older doesn't matter to you?

Nightfyre · 03-31-2024, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Heard some interesting comps for Thomas Jr on PFF podcast = MVS and/or D Robinson, both former Chiefs WRs.

Are we certain he'll be the #4 WR off the board?

I don't think so. While he is buttery fluid for his size and has serious speed, he is a body catcher with drop issues who benefited from having Daniels as his QB, who gave him consistently on-target throws. Some NFL team will think that they can fix all that - but if LSU couldn't in three years? That's a top flight coaching staff at the collegiate level.

Couch-Potato · 03-31-2024, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Really hope Veach drafts a real WR this time and not just an athletic project that needs to learn how to be a WR. Kinda done with those.

I think J Burton and D Walker fit the Chiefs mold the most, who do you think? Premium route-runners, deep threats, later 2nd rounders.

We never go after big/tall jump ball guys, McConkey's a great route runner but is he a deep threat?

I think we go BPA in the 1st, move up again for a WR in the 2nd.

Athlete types that might bust in my mind = WR Legette, TE Johnson, RB Guerendo

Couch-Potato · 03-31-2024, 02:19 PM

I still think Franklin could/should be our guy. If he's with Andy and Pat I don't think he can fail. Would be great in an offense where he doesn't need to be #1, just another weapon. Been thinking about that gauntlet drill, where he was winding all over the line and lots of people knocked him for that... but aren't WR's supposed to go to the ball? ...Is it possible he's been coached to step into the catch? Or just not run the gauntlet before, feels like folks are doubting him a bit but I could imagine him being the guy that breaks out a bit his rookie year as long as he's in the right offense.

I'm under the impression any WR the Lions, 49'ers or Chiefs take in the first 2 rounds will end up being solid due to the offense they're in.

Couch-Potato · 03-31-2024, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

The fact that Legette had like 200 yards total the previous two years and is what, two years older doesn't matter to you?

Sometimes you gotta go with the hot hand! 1,255 yards isn't something to dismiss IMO. Kids on roll!

10-10-2023, 08:45 PM
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	2024 WR Class Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like? 1st - 2nd RD WR Targets: Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6 Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3 Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5 Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41 Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29 Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35 Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22 Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48 Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42 Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38 Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46 Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31 This entire* class is tall WTF? Last edited by Couch-Potato; 03-24-2024 at 01:08 PM..
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03-29-2024, 04:58 PM	#2326
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	The one guy getting lost in this class is Xavier Weaver from Colorado. He isn't in some top-200 lists. I've been so very guilty of forgetting about him. Just went back to his tape and highlights a bit. If I'm a betting man, this kid is going before the end of the 3rd round and he's going to be a steal. He's going to be on the Chiefs radar with that speed, I guarantee it.
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Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018	This draft is just incredibly intriguing. I think you can get a guy that contributes well to your offense at WR very late in this draft, so unless you're double dipping at WR do you really want to pick one in the first? It's BPA vs depth of draft like it is every year, but the depth this year just makes this fascinating.
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03-31-2024, 12:27 PM	#2330
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	Why is AD Mitchell ranked over X Legette? ...Similar stats over last 3 years, both a size and speed guys, both have questions, I feel like Legette has more home run playmaking potential. Crucify me.
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03-31-2024, 02:08 PM	#2333
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	Heard some interesting comps for Thomas Jr on PFF podcast = MVS and/or D Robinson, both former Chiefs WRs. Are we certain he'll be the #4 WR off the board?
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ	Really hope Veach drafts a real WR this time and not just an athletic project that needs to learn how to be a WR. Kinda done with those.
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03-31-2024, 02:19 PM	#2339
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	I still think Franklin could/should be our guy. If he's with Andy and Pat I don't think he can fail. Would be great in an offense where he doesn't need to be #1, just another weapon. Been thinking about that gauntlet drill, where he was winding all over the line and lots of people knocked him for that... but aren't WR's supposed to go to the ball? ...Is it possible he's been coached to step into the catch? Or just not run the gauntlet before, feels like folks are doubting him a bit but I could imagine him being the guy that breaks out a bit his rookie year as long as he's in the right offense. I'm under the impression any WR the Lions, 49'ers or Chiefs take in the first 2 rounds will end up being solid due to the offense they're in. Last edited by Couch-Potato; 03-31-2024 at 02:36 PM..
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