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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
Will update OP with more info.
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11-07-2022, 04:51 PM | #2296 | |
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11-07-2022, 04:55 PM | #2297 |
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I'd be fascinated to see what a Toney/Hardman long-term duo could accomplish, but it seems pretty unlikely given the associated costs of keeping Hardman.
I just want to see what level of talent is required to make this sort of thing work. Do you need a HoF and Pro Bowl talent to pull it off and still eviscerate a Cover 2 shell? Can you do it with two guys who are incredibly fast but limited? One Pro Bowl guy and a fast/limited guy? What's the threshhold level of talent required for the philosophy to work? Can you pull it off with a Jackson/Maclin 2.0 sort of combo. If so...eh, we could luck into a Maclin and with strong development from Toney end up with a Jackson. I don't know. WR philosophy has fascinated the hell out of me ever since the market went completely haywire. Doubly so when the Chiefs zagged in response. |
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11-07-2022, 04:59 PM | #2298 |
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Non-existent run game. Rest of the league is happy to drop 8 guys into coverage and dare KC to run it, knowing that KC will probably gain 0-2 yards the vast majority of the time.
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11-07-2022, 05:06 PM | #2299 | |
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The answer wasn't to try to force safeties upfield - that just wasn't going to happen with Hill on the field. It was to force them laterally. And still deeper. To force them to cover MORE ground behind and around them. The idea that teams were EVER going to choose death by 1,000 papercuts over letting Mahomes carve them apart is simply a non-starter, IMO. Bend but don't break is the very foundation of modern NFL defenses. It's what they'll take every time because ultimately it takes one bad run or one holding call to blow it all apart. It's just not something I see as being a realistic choice - they won't EVER pick getting beat deep over getting beat by a RB. |
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11-08-2022, 11:01 AM | #2300 | |
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11-08-2022, 11:18 AM | #2301 |
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Wish we still had someone with the deep play ability of Reek. Mahomes to Hill, even in 4th and forever felt almost automatic. We don’t have anything close to that now.
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11-08-2022, 11:25 AM | #2302 |
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They need a run game way more than they need Tyreek. That was the case last year too, even with Tyreek on the roster.
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11-08-2022, 11:26 AM | #2303 | |
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11-15-2022, 11:40 PM | #2304 |
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how cute
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11-16-2022, 12:21 AM | #2305 | |
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11-16-2022, 12:31 AM | #2306 |
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they're also using W-L to prop up Tua now
the only good team he's beaten was baltimore he did nothing against buffalo miami's best use to us now is beating buffalo once more, then they can **** off and die you serve mahomes |
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11-16-2022, 01:08 AM | #2307 |
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They go on the road against 49ers pretty soon. Won’t be surprised if Tua struggles against that Niners defense. It’s not exactly the shitty defense of Lions or Bears that he torched recently. If he does struggle against the Niners, that would be an interesting data point in the comparison with Mahomes after Patrick torched the Niners in their stadium for 40+ points & 400+ yards.
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11-16-2022, 02:23 AM | #2308 |
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I'd rather Bills beat them and that's our match up, it's a better one for us imo.
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11-16-2022, 03:53 AM | #2309 |
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They effectively have 2 Tyreek Hill's out there, when you take into account Waddle. It may be the best WR pairing ever.
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11-16-2022, 04:22 AM | #2310 |
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