***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bugeater]

Ugh...back to the death talk I guess.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Ugh...back to the death talk I guess.

Enter nurse BRC to explain death in detail

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Ugh...back to the death talk I guess.

Let's get goth.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by 2112

The mom and pop hardware stores are the places to go. I went to a place called “better living” the next town over. Place was empty and had everything I was looking for. Home Depot and Lowe’s 50 people in the store at a time and then 10 out and 10 in with a long line. **** that

That's taking it really seriously. 50 doesn't seem like many people for a Home Depot/Lowes sized store. I see limits around here but they don't seem that strict for the most part.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by 2112

Enter nurse BRC to explain death in detail

I'd rather wait in line for 2 hours at Home Depot for a 1/2" angle stop.

[Donger]

Speaking today at the Feinstein Institute for Medical Research in Manhasset, New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo shared Sunday that hospitalizations across the state are on the decline.

"The total hospitalization rate is down again in the state of New York. We're down to 16,000. If you look at the numbers, we're at 18,000 people hospitalized for a period of time. It flattened there for awhile then went down to 17,000. This is a low from our high point of 16,000. The question of whether we have been passed the apex, past the high point, and turned out the high point wasn't a point, but it was a plateau. We got up to a high point and we just stayed at that level for awhile," Cuomo said at a news conference.

Cuomo added: "If the data holds and if this trend holds, we are past the high point and all indications at this point is that we are on the descent. Whether or not the descent continues depends on what we do but right now we're on the descent."

[2112]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

That's taking it really seriously. 50 doesn't seem like many people for a Home Depot/Lowes sized store. I see limits around here but they don't seem that strict for the most part.

It’s been like that here since about the 3rd week in March. Supermarkets aren’t that bad if you calibrate the right time to go. There’s a nobody’s allowed out rule by 8pm here but my shop rite about a mile away is open until 10pm. I’ll go for some stuff (milk eggs and bread) and there’s nobody in there. During the day? **** it! That place is a madhouse

[Rukdafaidas]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

That's taking it really seriously. 50 doesn't seem like many people for a Home Depot/Lowes sized store. I see limits around here but they don't seem that strict for the most part.

There were definitely more than 50 inside the Lowes/Home Depot here yesterday. Hell, there were way more than that just trying to get checked out. My wife works at Sams and they're only allowing 300 in the store at a time.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 2112

The mom and pop hardware stores are the places to go. I went to a place called “better living” the next town over. Place was empty and had everything I was looking for. Home Depot and Lowe’s 50 people in the store at a time and then 10 out and 10 in with a long line. **** that

Yeah smaller stores are letting people in up here bu Canadian Tire is order online/ phone pick up only.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Yeah smaller stores are letting people in up here bu Canadian Tire is order online/ phone pick up only.

I guess they are treading lightly.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Necessities man...you gotta stock up! Didn't you learn anything from the toilet paper crisis?

Yea but my usual source, my housekeeper, got deported. Now I got Karen who wears sweat pants to work. But she uses Q-Tips on my baseboards so she's alright.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

I guess they are treading lightly.

I find these puns to be deflating.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I find these puns to be deflating.

Just roll with it.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by eDave

Yea but my usual source, my housekeeper, got deported. Now I got Karen who wears sweat pants to work. But she uses Q-Tips on my baseboards so she's alright.

Q-tips on the baseboards?


I'm guessing she's probably who you'd want to contact for meth. Keep an eye on your valuables.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

Just roll with it.

Please...spare me...