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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:18 PM   #2236
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I bought it at 41.52, thinking I had picked it up on a reasonable downswing after it fell from the high of 46.23.

So at least I didn't lose as much of my ass as I could have.

From what I just read though, the long-term outlook is still very strong and the drop is just china's market being shit right now.

Either way this is probably the last foreign stock I buy. They're way too volatile.
I don't have a problem with foreign stocks in general, but I do avoid stocks in controlled economies. I'm hardly an expert at it, but I feel like there aren't enough controls to be sure that stuff is being reported accurately and that there aren't insiders manipulating the process. I've stayed completely out of China and have no plans to buy anything there. I don't know if that's a problem here, and obviously a lot of people have made money in China, but I just don't trust their system at this point.

If it makes you feel better, I've lost 90+ percent on a stock before. JDSU haunts me. I think I first bought it around 120 and sold it at around 3 or some such thing. And it was not a small holding, either, because I kept buying as it went down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JDSU#Stock

During the 1990s, JDS Uniphase stock was a high-flyer tech stock investor favorite. Its stock price doubled three times and three stock splits of 2:1 occurred roughly every 90 days during the last half of 1999 through early 2000, making millionaires of many employees who were stock option holders, and further enabling JDS Uniphase to go on an acquisition and merger binge. After the telecom downturn, JDS Uniphase announced in late July 2001 the largest (up to then) write-down of goodwill. Employment soon dropped as part of the Global Realignment Program from nearly 29,000 to approximately 5,300, many of its factories and facilities were closed around the world, and the stock price dropped from $153 per share to less than $2 per share.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:19 PM   #2237
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How did you research stocks in the 90s? Magazines?
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:27 PM   #2238
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How did you research stocks in the 90s? Magazines?
The funny thing is that I don't remember. I was investing in individual stocks as early as 1991, but I don't remember how I researched them. And I was very active and technical in researching them at that point.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:48 PM   #2239
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interesting talk on reddit...people saying it's going to hit $60 in November
Right......

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Old 08-14-2018, 08:49 PM   #2240
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:13 PM   #2241
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He's right though.

If you look at the subscriber base IQ has and the other companies they are absorbing, there is simply too much positive momentum there for this to last long.

As soon as the chinese market turns and their positive momentum keeps trending, there will be another spike.

And that's when I'm going to sell it as fast as possible.
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:40 AM   #2242
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The funny thing is that I don't remember. I was investing in individual stocks as early as 1991, but I don't remember how I researched them. And I was very active and technical in researching them at that point.
WSJ established themselves as the market leader in this arena.

However, SEC filings were largely the same then. You just had to get them.
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:39 AM   #2243
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rut roh, tencent missed the top and bottom

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Net profit of 17.9 billion yuan versus 19.6 billion yuan expected, representing a 2 percent year-on-year decline and a 23 percent fall from the previous quarter. It's the first decline since the third quarter of 2005.
Commence firebombing of anything that sounds possibly chinese
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:22 AM   #2244
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Commence firebombing of anything that sounds possibly chinese
Every China stock is tanking. I'm waiting to pounce. There's gonna be opportunity for some HUGE returns in a short period of time.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:46 AM   #2245
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I'm taking a beating on everything(individual stocks) I'm in right now except for TEVA.

The boots keep coming today.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:02 AM   #2246
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Investing is like being jumped into a gang.

I'm taking a beating on everything(individual stocks) I'm in right now except for TEVA.

The boots keep coming today.
Outside of a few, I’m taking some lumps too this week.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:13 AM   #2247
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Investing is like being jumped into a gang.

I'm taking a beating on everything(individual stocks) I'm in right now except for TEVA.

The boots keep coming today.
Yeah, this is a rough day. I'm taking solace in the fact that I'm down less than the S&P. Relatively speaking, I guess that's a win.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:31 AM   #2248
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Except for the times when it doesn't.
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:43 PM   #2249
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I think a good rule of thumb for when the hype cycle has peaked on a newish company is when word makes it's way down and it gets posted about on a random football team message board.

You could probably form a good strategy based on shorting any individual stock that gets posted about in this thread.
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