David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"

[CrowbarMan]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Too large a sample size. Especially when it's obvious to all that version of Alex Smith hasn't returned.

The ban can't start soon enough.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Again, too small a sample size, too greatly skewed by one game.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Too large a sample size. Especially when it's obvious to all that version of Alex Smith hasn't returned.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.....JFC....if there is anyone, absolutely ANYONE, that still buys in to anything you have to say...this did ended that. This is lazy trolling.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Again, too small a sample size, too greatly skewed by one game.

Last I checked, 4 games is more than 3(which is what you just cited). And it also coincides with when Nagy took over play calling. The Jets game is included for everyone that isn't an irrational hater.

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Derek Carr was in the MVP conversation last year. He is the stud of the division. No offense but instant gratification is not the answer to replacing a seasoned veteran. From what I saw of Mahomes he looks like he has potential but he's not ready to start in the NFL and who knows he may never be ready.

He is too jumpy in the pocket and forces the ball in dangerous places.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Derek Carr was in the MVP conversation last year. He is the stud of the division. No offense but instant gratification is not the answer to replacing a seasoned veteran. From what I saw of Mahomes he looks like he has potential but he's not ready to start in the NFL and who knows he may never be ready.

He is too jumpy in the pocket and forces the ball in dangerous places.

What a ridiculously bad take

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What a ridiculously bad take

Do you think if Aaron Rodgers had taken over the Packers even though Brett was still there that he'd be as good as he is? No one really knows but we do know he sat behind one of the greatest players of al time and has cemented himself as one of the best to ever play the game.

I'll give this young man the opportunity to learn the NFL. However, High School and College football does not compare.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Do you think if Aaron Rodgers had taken over the Packers even though Brett was still there that he'd be as good as he is? No one really knows but we do know he sat behind one of the greatest players of al time and has cemented himself as one of the best to ever play the game.

I'll give this young man the opportunity to learn the NFL. However, High School and College football does not compare.

Both sides of the sitting vs playing argument have winners.

What about Manning, Brady, Ryan, Wilson, Big Ben etc...?

They all played right away and are/were great quarterbacks.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Do you think if Aaron Rodgers had taken over the Packers even though Brett was still there that he'd be as good as he is? No one really knows but we do know he sat behind one of the greatest players of al time and has cemented himself as one of the best to ever play the game.

I'll give this young man the opportunity to learn the NFL. However, High School and College football does not compare.

Yes. Aaron Rodgers would have been fine.

Like any young qb, he would have learned while he played. Just as Wentz is doing. Just as Goff is doing. Just as Watson was doing.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Do you think if Aaron Rodgers had taken over the Packers even though Brett was still there that he'd be as good as he is? No one really knows but we do know he sat behind one of the greatest players of al time and has cemented himself as one of the best to ever play the game.

I'll give this young man the opportunity to learn the NFL. However, High School and College football does not compare.

I think the Rodger situation is different.

Rodgers fell into Green Bays lap. They didnt move up 15 spots and use future draft capitol to get him.

They probably weren't planning on taking him, he just kind of fell to them. They didnt move up because they already had a Hall of fame bound QB, and even then they probably only took Aaron because Favre was 36 years old.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Derek Carr was in the MVP conversation last year. He is the stud of the division. No offense but instant gratification is not the answer to replacing a seasoned veteran. From what I saw of Mahomes he looks like he has potential but he's not ready to start in the NFL and who knows he may never be ready.

He is too jumpy in the pocket and forces the ball in dangerous places.

Dude, do you even football?

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Dude, do you even football?

Specifically talking physical traits Pat and Aarron Rodgers are strikingly similar but as far as the mental side yes Rodgers was farther ahead coming out of Cal. Rodgers thrives outside the pocket throwing unbelievable balls that's never been witnessed in the NFL. Mahomes has the same arm strength and ability in my opinion. Not saying Mahomes is any where near Rodgers game at this point (because he's not) but there's a lot of hope and optimism in KC. However.

Hope and optimism do not win games..in AFC west

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

Specifically talking physical traits Pat and Aarron Rodgers are strikingly similar but as far as the mental side yes Rodgers was farther ahead coming out of Cal. Rodgers thrives outside the pocket throwing unbelievable balls that's never been witnessed in the NFL. Mahomes has the same arm strength and ability in my opinion. Not saying Mahomes is any where near Rodgers game at this point (because he's not) but there's a lot of hope and optimism in KC. However.

Hope and optimism do not win games..in AFC west

Rodgers and Smith escape the pocket and get those sneaky yards a lot better. Again just a small sample size. Pat has several years into he's even at where Rodgers was when he first got the start... You can tell by the maturity, decision making, demeanor, quality of throws

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut

Rodgers and Smith escape the pocket and get those sneaky yards a lot better. Again just a small sample size. Pat has several years into he's even at where Rodgers was when he first got the start... You can tell by the maturity, decision making, demeanor, quality of throws

Alex is a better runner than Rodgers or mahomes. The comparison ends there. Alex is not good throwing on the run, let alone looking to throw, let alone taking chances throwing on the run. And he's not good about knowing his pocket to initially escape pressure. In those areas, mahomes looks like he could be Rodgers like.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut

Rodgers and Smith escape the pocket and get those sneaky yards a lot better. Again just a small sample size. Pat has several years into he's even at where Rodgers was when he first got the start... You can tell by the maturity, decision making, demeanor, quality of throws

LOL. Smith isn't even in the same ballpark as Rodgers in evading pressure and buying time.

Mahomes on the other hand...