***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

NY reporting again tonight Pete. Over 1k today now

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

non-political politic posts? That’s my thing.

/I kid. Not serious disclaimer.

I’d say you are right. And you’re serious about it

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yes.

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[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It would be like diluting bleach in half and using that.

You have no idea.

Spore-forming bacteria are absolute bitches to kill. Seventy percent rubbing alcohol will not kill C-diff (which produces a diarrhea so foul it will clear out a hospital room), so you need special agents to get rid of nasty bugs like it and its brethren. Enter sporicides.

We use one called Peridox RTU that is a combination of hydrogen peroxide and acetic acid, which forms peroxyacetic acid. Imagine the nastiness of vinegar smell mixed with the funkiness of hydrogen peroxide, then spraying it in an enclosed area. It will turn your eyes into faucets, and unless you follow it up with 70% IPA (rubbing alcohol), it will rust out stainless steel.

Ugh. Our stuff is nasty in it's concentrated form, but as long as you don't stick your nose in the drum it won't bother you. Although the guys who closed one of our pools a few years back mistakenly put the stainless steel ladders in the pump room over the winter...they didn't look very good the next spring, and that's just from the residual since the system was inactive. Makes you realize the capabilities of some of the chemicals.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Ugh. Our stuff is nasty in it's concentrated form, but as long as you don't stick your nose in the drum it won't bother you. Although the guys who closed one of our pools a few years back mistakenly put the stainless steel ladders in the pump room over the winter...they didn't look very good the next spring, and that's just from the residual since the system was inactive. Makes you realize the capabilities of some of the chemicals.

I had a friend in high school who was a lifeguard at a new aquatic center in town. He decided to swim laps in the indoor pool one night shortly before it opened. Long story short, they ****ed the chlorine levels up majorly and he had full body dermatitis.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Any good news to report for the day?

Apathy is starting to set in with me on this and I feel less anxious about going out in public with all of this going on...probably not good, but I’m ready to get it to a point so I build immunity to it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Any good news to report for the day?

Apathy is starting to set in with me on this and I feel less anxious about going out in public with all of this going on...probably not good, but I’m ready to get it to a point so I build immunity to it.

Caseload is plateauing (which is highly dependent, but isn't likely bad news)

Some therapies may show promise according to early reports (but these are not powered, randomized trials; this is more anecdotal).

Hospitals are unlikely to be overrun at the current rate of case/growth and hospitalization

I think there's a lot to be cautiously optimistic about. The hard part is the realization that reaching the summit of the mountain does not mean that you're off the mountain. The descent needs to be managed well. It's hard to think about because it's taken a long time to get to this point, but this is an arduous process. We all want this to be over, but we can't let our zeal for it to be over cause us to make rash decisions that will only prolong the ordeal.

The quickest way to end this shit without mass calamity is to do what we've been doing, which sucks, because it is exhausting.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

(which produces a diarrhea so foul it will clear out a hospital room)

Wait, what? Don't they all?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Caseload is plateauing (which is highly dependent, but isn't likely bad news)

Some therapies may show promise according to early reports (but these are not powered, randomized trials; this is more anecdotal).

Hospitals are unlikely to be overrun at the current rate of case/growth and hospitalization

I think there's a lot to be cautiously optimistic about. The hard part is the realization that reaching the summit of the mountain does not mean that you're off the mountain. The descent needs to be managed well. It's hard to think about because it's taken a long time to get to this point, but this is an arduous process. We all want this to be over, but we can't let our zeal for it to be over cause us to make rash decisions that will only prolong the ordeal.

The quickest way to end this shit without mass calamity is to do what we've been doing, which sucks, because it is exhausting.

Would you say the study out of California was good news?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

NY reporting again tonight Pete. Over 1k today now

They had a weird jump earlier today. I mean like only a couple hours after their first report which is unusual for them. Not only did they almost double the death count they at the time only listed 305 new cases. It just seems a little off but whatever.

[FloridaMan88]

Not surprising due to no live sports...

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/esp...-april-12.html

ESPN lost 62 percent of its year-over-year audience for the week of April 12

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Not surprising due to no live sports...

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/esp...-april-12.html

The NFL draft will get huge numbers.

[KCUnited]

Hopefully the nibble of sports will boost morale and combat the climate of fear.

[tk13]

That's why baseball is trying to come up with every possible crazy idea to play. It's just the question of whether players will buy in to quarantine. And trying to do it right. If they come back and have to shut down again because it's spreading among players, sports may be dead for the year, or beyond.

[KCUnited]

Baseball should take a backseat instead of risking it all for stuff people actually turn out for.