***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m cutting out sugar as we speak.

Also trying cocaine for the “energy” boost since it’s better than sugar. Also doubling my alcohol use for the health benefits.

I hope it cures my asthma.

I'm fairly certain if you ad smoking a Cuban cigar every night to the above regiment, you should be golden.

[BleedingRed]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...r-not-21882132

Covid-19 potentially started in September, but might have no spread till December

[petegz28]

NY Times showing 5,283 for Mo as well....

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Coronavirus began months earlier and not in Wuhan, bombshell UK report claims.......

" Everything we thought we knew about the beginnings of the coronavirus pandemic could be wrong.

A bombshell report by scientists from the University of Cambridge has cast doubt on previous beliefs about when and where Covid-19 first broke out.

While coronavirus was previously believed to have originated in a wet market in Wuhan at the end of last year, new research suggests it may have actually came from further south – and began spreading among humans as early as September 2019.

The team of researchers has published its extraordinary findings – which have yet to be peer-reviewed – in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, outlining a "network" of infections that has thrown existing knowledge into doubt."

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...r-not-21882132

Anyone know if this actually means anything? I know scientifically they care, but it's not clear to me if this indicates anything about the nature of the virus or how quickly we can get it under control.

[petegz28]

Okay so the IHME people or whomever they are, are now stating that places like NY are seeing "longer than expected peaks".......

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Anyone know if this actually means anything? I know scientifically they care, but it's not clear to me if this indicates anything about the nature of the virus or how quickly we can get it under control.

I tend to agree even if it arrived here last year were are where we are now.

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'm feeling pretty proud of myself today though in my mind I was just doing my job. Apparently our health system is getting a ton of praise and good messages for us providing our isolated patients with iPads and the ability for them to visit with their families.

In case people don't know, it's not just Covid patients being isolated. Right now we have Dads not being able to see their children be born or other family members able to visit their loved ones for non-covid related issues.

I was informed yesterday and again today that the efforts to get this solution out are receiving some excellent feedback from patients and their families.

I went through a couple weeks of chaos trying to get this all worked out with our management and leadership teams and it's nice to see how much that has benefited people and their families.

You should be proud, bro. Our team is killing it! Solutions are what we do and it's been fast and furious. FYI, if this is confusing, Pete and I are on the same team at work. iPads, all of the Telehealth/Telemedicine solutions, we're churning this stuff out every day.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by phisherman

You should be proud, bro. Our team is killing it! Solutions are what we do and it's been fast and furious. FYI, if this is confusing, Pete and I are on the same team at work. iPads, all of the Telehealth/Telemedicine solutions, we're churning this stuff out every day.

So is he the same at work as he is here, don't worry we won't say anything.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by phisherman

You should be proud, bro. Our team is killing it! Solutions are what we do and it's been fast and furious. FYI, if this is confusing, Pete and I are on the same team at work. iPads, all of the Telehealth/Telemedicine solutions, we're churning this stuff out every day.

Do you like to sit in a boat with a line in the water or do you like to fraudulently obtain usernames or do you like to listen to jam bands or is it some combination?

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by Monticore

So is he the same at work as he is here, don't worry we won't say anything.

Oh, I've got stories....

[petegz28]

So now they are saying remdesivir is showing good results in monkeys I guess in a fed gov study or something. It just crossed the wires.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Johns Hopkins has the same.


They say it’s from the mo health dept ...

Hopkins has us at 175 deaths. They're typically ahead of the DHSS website. I've even seen them back the number of deaths off a couple of times.

It's tough to say who has the most accurate numbers.

I'm interested to see how many tests MO ran today more than anything. Hopefully it's back closer to that 3000 number.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Johns Hopkins has the same.


They say it’s from the mo health dept ...

weird. MO Dept health doesn't have those numbers on their site.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So now they are saying remdesivir is showing good results in monkeys I guess in a fed gov study or something. It just crossed the wires.

There was big buzz last night about remdesivir in humans too, if you haven't seen it.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So now they are saying remdesivir is showing good results in monkeys I guess in a fed gov study or something. It just crossed the wires.

It's not a 100% bet by any means, but it certainly seems like there's a lot of positive stuff coming out about it lately. Sounds like they're hoping to have some real conclusions in a couple weeks.