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Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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M-I-Z-Z-O-U
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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It isn’t. Not when we’re talking about the speed he presents on deep routes and the threat that provides to the defense. It keeps teams from rotating up towards the line, forces them to continue accounting for deep balls like they had to when Hill was in KC. Valdes-Scantling has elite long speed for the NFL. Outside of Jalen Waddle and Hill, you’re not going to find a guy with more. He fills an important and valuable role in the offensive design. Which many people seem to not credit or not understand. |
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MVP
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Here's an interesting perspective on this debate, maybe. Where does MVS rank amongst the top deep-speed threats in the NFL? Who are the top 10? Last edited by Couch-Potato; 06-10-2023 at 08:51 AM.. |
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Arizona
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You’re correct in saying MVS keeps teams honest but that also means big plays are almost never there. All of our WRs have good enough speed to run MVS routes and would keep the D more honest in my opinion. |
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#2149 |
Most Valuable Villain
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Couch-Potato and Balto in a "MVS deserves to be traded" discussion. Who could have seen that coming? Not me.
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Bono & Grbac wasn't enough
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Sioux City, IA
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2150?
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El Gato Gordo Loco
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Earth
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I Like The Kansas City Chiefs
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Shawnee, KS
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Did I miss the contract signing?
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SuperChiefs
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Florida
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Suupraa Geniuuusss
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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MVP
Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
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The routes are all combinations that threaten the defense's coverage rules in different ways in different areas, and all of them work together to create advantages. |
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M-I-Z-Z-O-U
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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One can have an elite skill and still be a role player. As far as deep speed threats, he’s in that group for me because of the combination of his pure speed AND demonstrated ability to stack defenders on deep routes and track the ball downfield. There are probably guys who are faster - like Hardman, for example - who are not as dangerous on deep routes because they don’t have the other skills. I’d put Hill first and probably Waddle second. After that, I don’t know that there’s one burner type I’d separate as clearly above the rest. Valdes-Scantlibg is in consideration there. Hyatt might prove to be, if he can translate his abilities to a regular NFL role rather than the schemed one he had in college. |
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#2157 |
MVP
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Plaxico Burress says he only wants to practice once a week
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#2158 |
Suupraa Geniuuusss
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I didn't hear or read 'once a week,' but I did read that he wasn't practicing everyday with ARI.
However, he also said in one of those podcast interviews (think it was the McAfee show) that if he went to a team like the Chiefs that he would practice everyday, to develop chemistry with the QB and learn the offense. |
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Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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He's a decoy but necessary. If teams do decide to try to play us straight up Mahomes will be more than happy to throw it over their head. |
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