***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

He said yesterday they would need to do 40-50k\day to safely open . My guess he is going to to extend it

Everyone should just prepare that June 1 is the earliest you can expect.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You still don’t understand the all or none argument you’re making. It’s not that simple. You also don’t understand how the body metabolizes various substance that you’re arguing. I’m in very good shape and don’t eat many refined sugars. But refined sugars in moderation can have their place including post lifting workout as insulin IS needed for muscular protein synthesis (that’s called building muscle idiot). Also, many long distance runners need simple sugars to boost glycogen stores during running. It’s vital to success in that sport. You think marathon runners are just pounding water to run all those miles?

Using cocaine as an analogy makes me think your high school education shouldn’t be arguing about this topic.

We did forget to mention alcohol makes a good disinfectant , maybe it helps kill the COVID that way, mmmmm disinfectant.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Everyone should just prepare that June 1 is the earliest you can expect.

Based on what?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Monticore

We did forget to mention alcohol makes a good disinfectant , maybe it helps kill the COVID that way, mmmmm disinfectant.

Well bleach kills everything, you can just down some of that.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Based on what?

Based on using my eyes and seeing what is going on, if you get all worked up that things are going to go back to normal in 2 weeks you're just going to be disappointed.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Why are Saint Louis and KC getting out in front of Parsons 3pm news conference?

I wonder if he is easing state guidelines and turning shit back over to citys.

it's akin to saying "I liked *insert thing here* before it was cool"

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Morphine is considered safe during pregnancy but alcohol isn't and I have never heard the term Fetal Sugar Syndrome.

Children of diabetic mother's often have neonatal hypoglycemia and fetal macrosomnia.

I believe that cocaine is still used during ENT procedures.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Everyone should just prepare that June 1 is the earliest you can expect.

I think his PC today will be to show a plan to reopen but maybe extend the closings for a few more weeks. KC and ST Louis peaks are still a 2-3 weeks away.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Based on using my eyes and seeing what is going on, if you get all worked up that things are going to go back to normal in 2 weeks you're just going to be disappointed.

I don't foresee any major metropolitan area "reopening" anytime within the next 24 weeks.

Using my eyes and seeing what's going on, of couse.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I don't foresee any major metropolitan area "reopening" anytime within the next 24 weeks.

I also said earliest, I don't even really think it's super reasonable, but at this point I think having any conversations about a time frame before that is laughable at best and June is borderline to me.

[petegz28]

NY in with 606 new deaths. That is a substantial drop from the last 2 days.

[Fat Elvis]

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I'll continue my push to get people to stop talking about it's a yes/no thing. Removing the parachute would be removing all restrictions, and that's not really under consideration.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Works perfectly!

Keep doing what we are = Landing slowly in ****ing lava

Open slowly = Twist our ankle on ****ing landing

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

He said yesterday they would need to do 40-50k\day to safely open . My guess he is going to to extend it

Maybe Just odd for them to want to scoop him by a few hours.