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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:57 PM   #2131
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What do I have to gain by investing stocks on my own? My 401k has been humming along by Vanguard. I don't do anything. I think they would know more than me. Buying, selling, paying fees, staying up to date on news sounds like a pain in the ass.
For most people, very little. If you have the time and interest to invest in individual stocks, it can be an interesting way of earning some cash, but there obviously no guarantees, and a vast majority of average Joe's are better off with broader mutual funds or ETFs.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:18 PM   #2132
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IQ sounds like Prestige....world wide.
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Old 07-13-2018, 02:46 PM   #2133
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There are some people who think IQ stock will be worth 10x what it is now in five years.

I'm holding.
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Old 07-13-2018, 04:13 PM   #2134
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Who's still long in IQ? BEen waiting for you guys to post the next best thing. WTF is HF when you need him?
The next hype stock IPO was UXIN. Right before it was set to IPO Huya, IQ, etc. started tanking a bit amid trade war fears and just general hey if you go up 100% in a month or whatever you're probably going back down.

The kids were saying Carmax of China! Which doesn't sound that exciting to be honest lol

I spent a couple of hours reading through their F1. They're taking on debt like crazy. I think they spent 96 and 102% of revenue in marketing alone the last two years. They'd gained market share from it. Can't remember exactly but they went from 34 or so to 42% of used car sales.

Apparently, in China car loans work like homes here. New cars you can only get a loan for 80% of the value. Used cars 70%. Electrics can get more

If I invest in China, I like companies where some other company I trust has invested in them. Then I know they've done their DD and it's a real company and not a scam. Unlike many of the other stocks we talked about this isn't the case AFAIK with Uxin. I consider this pretty risky and only looked into it in the hopes of riding the new china stock hype wave. It died a bit right before this IPO'd and this stock has gone down a bit since IPO like all of China stocks.

All that said, if their numbers are real their revenue growth is huge. 130+% annually. It is sort of intriguing. I'm worried about chinese scams, I imagine so are Chinese people right? A good reason to go to the Carmax of China?
If I remember right they allow returns for 30 days. They pointed out a lot of stats that showed Chinese consumers have way less cars than in the US. Makes sense.. many of them haven't have the money. I sort of suspect some of that is China building out more public transportation than we have too.
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Old 07-13-2018, 04:28 PM   #2135
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Oh, I forgot, I wanted Adyen! They listed in Netherlands and when I woke up in the morning they had gone up 100% on day one

They IPO'd and were already profitable as a digital payment company. Uber, Netflix, Etsy, Groupon, etc. use them. Oh, Ebay is moving from Paypal to them over the next few years
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:05 PM   #2136
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You cannot trust the financials of these Chinese companies. I don't believe them outside of Alibaba, in which I own a large long stake in because of that trust and leadership.

I am playing IQ on speculation for generating some income but I don't plan to hold many shares (if any) long term.
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Old 07-13-2018, 08:06 PM   #2137
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There are some people who think IQ stock will be worth 10x what it is now in five years.

I'm holding.
That's been said and generated about most "hot" tech stocks at one time or another.

99% go the other direction or flat-line for years.
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Old 07-15-2018, 11:14 AM   #2138
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So, it seems we have quite a few IQ holders here. I like to use Finviz to take a quick look at companies. It's not perfect but it puts a lot of info into a small area. I basically use it to decide if I want to spend time researching a business and digging through the financial records. A lot of the fields here are empty probably becuase IQ hasn't had an earnings report yet.



I assumed this was a mistake but Schwab and Yahoo Finance also list nearly 700 million shares.

Explain yourselves, longs. Baidu, spun this off so I assume it's legit but these numbers say there are 10 million shares voting on the current stock price w/ 700 million shares currently in lockup who've been precluded from selling. That sounds awful and I can't imagine it's accurate. If the people who priced this IPO at 18 dollars or whatever are holding 700 million shares on the sidelines, uhh, good luck.
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So, it seems we have quite a few IQ holders here. I like to use Finviz to take a quick look at companies. It's not perfect but it puts a lot of info into a small area. I basically use it to decide if I want to spend time researching a business and digging through the financial records. A lot of the fields here are empty probably becuase IQ hasn't had an earnings report yet.



I assumed this was a mistake but Schwab and Yahoo Finance also list nearly 700 million shares.

Explain yourselves, longs. Baidu, spun this off so I assume it's legit but these numbers say there are 10 million shares voting on the current stock price w/ 700 million shares currently in lockup who've been precluded from selling. That sounds awful and I can't imagine it's accurate. If the people who priced this IPO at 18 dollars or whatever are holding 700 million shares on the sidelines, uhh, good luck.
Great post


As I've stated numerous times, there's no reason to be long on IQ. None. I am swing trading it as needed in this sideways market and nothing more.
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Old 07-15-2018, 12:58 PM   #2140
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They should be coming out with their earnings report in the next several days.
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:27 PM   #2141
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Another 10% bump for IQ today.

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Another 10% bump for IQ today.

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Get on the train boys. She's leaving the station!
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:11 PM   #2143
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("iQIYI" or the "Company"), an innovative market-leading online entertainment service in China, today announced total shared revenue figures for online movies shown on its platform during the first half of 2018. The figures show that as of June 30 this year, the top 10 movies on iQIYI's online platform took in a total shared revenue of over 180 million RMB, which would amount to a box office revenue of 540 million RMB if it were in the offline cinema market.

The figures released by iQIYI show that June 2018 has been a particularly strong month for online movies on iQIYI's platform. The total shared revenue of the top ten newly released movies on the iQIYI platform this June was 71.87 million RMB, representing a 260% increase on the 19.95 million RMB in online movie shared revenue attained on the iQIYI platform in June of the preceding year.

2018 is looking to be a milestone year for the Chinese online movie industry, with the number of high income movies already greater than was the case over the whole of last year.
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:18 PM   #2144
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IQ has *only* 61 million subscribers.

There are 1.4 billion people in China.
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IQ has *only* 61 million subscribers.

There are 1.4 billion people in China.
Staying in long term now with all that capital?


Let it ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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