***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I am serious what is CCP and Mult mean.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I am serious what is CCP and Mult mean.

Don't pay attention to the CPDC trash. They'll just derail the thread.

[BryanBusby]

Oh we're at 'this' part of the day. Neat.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Don't pay attention to the CPDC trash. They'll just derail the thread.

Potential Mult Owner Spotted CAPTAIN!

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its 39 grams of sugar so if you consume 6 a day it's over a half pound of sugar to put it in perspective.

My boss is obese...and he, like millions of Americans, drink sugary drinks every day.Hell this ****ing guy brings a brick of Dr. Pepper in his office every Monday and it’s gone by Friday.

That’s a little over 3 cans a day which is 120g of sugar. Just from soda.

And this country wonders why it’s inhabited by a bunch of people in horrible health.

Hard to think that soda is not the most unhealthy thing a human can consume in excess

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I can't see embed images at work either.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by RunKC

My boss is obese...and he, like millions of Americans, drink sugary drinks every day.Hell this ****ing guy brings a brick of Dr. Pepper in his office every Monday and it’s gone by Friday.

That’s a little over 3 cans a day which is 120g of sugar. Just from soda.

And this country wonders why it’s inhabited by a bunch of people in horrible health.

Hard to think that soda is not the most unhealthy thing a human can consume in excess

It can corrode metal so it has some benefits.

[Monticore]

My Personal trainer friend who works with NHL/OHL players mostly says to lose weight you should not drink your calories , water only. Artificial sweeteners can make you gain weight according to the last thing I read , the body thinks it is sugar and acts in a similar fashion, again that was one study. Meaning calories from liquids are worst than ones from solids all things being equal.

[DaFace]

Man, some of the soap boxes people choose to stand on...yeesh.

[loochy]

I thought the whole point of "flatten the curve" was to make the "peak" lower (like near what it is now) but drag it out over a super long period of time. It doesn't mean that any fewer total people will get infected. Doesn't that imply that we will keep what is going on now indefinitely?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by RunKC

My boss is obese...and he, like millions of Americans, drink sugary drinks every day.Hell this ****ing guy brings a brick of Dr. Pepper in his office every Monday and it’s gone by Friday.

That’s a little over 3 cans a day which is 120g of sugar. Just from soda.

And this country wonders why it’s inhabited by a bunch of people in horrible health.

Hard to think that soda is not the most unhealthy thing a human can consume in excess

It's been said several times that the worst pre-existing condition with regard to COVID19 is obesity

[O.city]

Originally Posted by loochy

I thought the whole point of "flatten the curve" was to make the "peak" lower (like near what it is now) but drag it out over a super long period of time. It doesn't mean that any fewer total people will get infected. Doesn't that imply that we will keep what is going on now indefinitely?

Pretty much

The idea that we’re gonna keep people from getting infection Ship sailed awhile ago.

[mr. tegu]

How long until elective health procedures become emergencies? How long until non essential workers can no longer feed themselves or keep the lights on? How long until what were once considered essential businesses and workers can no longer work due to their businesses having no income? (This has happened a lot already). How long until taxes can no longer can support all of the people in need of assistance?

I don’t really know the answers but I do know it is completely unfeasible to treat every worker and business the same when it comes to who is allowed to operate and who is not.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by loochy

I thought the whole point of "flatten the curve" was to make the "peak" lower (like near what it is now) but drag it out over a super long period of time. It doesn't mean that any fewer total people will get infected. Doesn't that imply that we will keep what is going on now indefinitely?

It sure seems like the goal post got moved.

[Demonpenz]

KC got Shelter in place got extended out until May 15th which pretty much says there won't be a summer.