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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:12 AM   #2101
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It's happening with the Chargers, again. Seeing a lot of "Michael Lombardi was the problem" buzz.

And yeah, Lombardi hyper focuses on the short pass game. But the idea for some seems to be that he wasn't good, at all.

I suspect the Chargers will end up throwing more deep shots (and being more explosive, potentially, as a result), but that some aspects of their short passing game that have been positives (consistency, moving the chains, gaining a lot of positive yardage) may step back... and they end up roughly the same.

The question could also be asked... does a more explosive, less consistent offense (that isn't as good at methodical, clock-chewing drives) mesh well with Brandon Staley?
Its not their scheme, coach or Herbert's fault. Mahomes is a unicorn. If he was on the Bears, they'd be contending by now.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:20 AM   #2102
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It's happening with the Chargers, again. Seeing a lot of "Michael Lombardi was the problem" buzz.

And yeah, Lombardi hyper focuses on the short pass game. But the idea for some seems to be that he wasn't good, at all.

I suspect the Chargers will end up throwing more deep shots (and being more explosive, potentially, as a result), but that some aspects of their short passing game that have been positives (consistency, moving the chains, gaining a lot of positive yardage) may step back... and they end up roughly the same.

The question could also be asked... does a more explosive, less consistent offense (that isn't as good at methodical, clock-chewing drives) mesh well with Brandon Staley?
If your QB is good your team can do both effectively, see.Mahomes, Patrick
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:23 AM   #2103
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Its not their scheme, coach or Herbert's fault. Mahomes is a unicorn. If he was on the Bears, they'd be contending by now.


The Chiefs have little to do with the Chargers laughable failures. Having another great team in the divison doesn't excuse shit like the Jags playoff game.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:26 AM   #2104
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It's happening with the Chargers, again. Seeing a lot of "Michael Lombardi was the problem" buzz.

And yeah, Lombardi hyper focuses on the short pass game. But the idea for some seems to be that he wasn't good, at all.

I suspect the Chargers will end up throwing more deep shots (and being more explosive, potentially, as a result), but that some aspects of their short passing game that have been positives (consistency, moving the chains, gaining a lot of positive yardage) may step back... and they end up roughly the same.

The question could also be asked... does a more explosive, less consistent offense (that isn't as good at methodical, clock-chewing drives) mesh well with Brandon Staley?
Interesting.... I'm not at all in depth into their scheme, but for whatever reason don't see them as a short pass team. That could just be given their strategy against the Chiefs or bias towards when they're behind in games.

Whatever keeps Staley there longer though, he's an idiot.
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Old 06-09-2023, 08:52 AM   #2105
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Imagine telling people you want a ring not $ then signing with NE to play with Mac Jones over Patrick Mahomes.
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Old 06-09-2023, 09:05 AM   #2106
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Interesting.... I'm not at all in depth into their scheme, but for whatever reason don't see them as a short pass team. That could just be given their strategy against the Chiefs or bias towards when they're behind in games.

Whatever keeps Staley there longer though, he's an idiot.
Yeah, I don't think of them that way, either. But there are several national guys who have complained about that scheme not taking advantage of Herbert's abilities. So we'll see.
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Old 06-09-2023, 09:07 AM   #2107
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Imagine telling people you want a ring not $ then signing with NE to play with Mac Jones over Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious he's just chasing the money. I don't blame him though. These guys have a very limited time to make as much as they can, but don't claim that you want to go to a contender to chase a ring
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Old 06-09-2023, 09:08 AM   #2108
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Yeah, I don't think of them that way, either. But there are several national guys who have complained about that scheme not taking advantage of Herbert's abilities. So we'll see.
League circles say...
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Old 06-09-2023, 09:10 AM   #2109
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Old 06-09-2023, 09:13 AM   #2110
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He's going to go where he gets the most $ guys.

Was always going to be the case.
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Old 06-09-2023, 09:40 AM   #2111
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He's going to go where he gets the most $ guys.

Was always going to be the case.
Exactly, JJ Watt also said he wanted to play for a Super Bowl contender. He went to Arizona

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Old 06-09-2023, 10:28 AM   #2112
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Its not their scheme, coach or Herbert's fault. Mahomes is a unicorn. If he was on the Bears, they'd be contending by now.
I'm not sure what you're trying to excuse from the Chargers by sighting Mahomes greatness but a LOT of the Chargers problems are a result of the scheme and coach.
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Old 06-09-2023, 10:38 AM   #2113
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Lol. So he gonna go play for Billy O' Brian eh?



Pats are the worst team in that division and have no shot at the playoffs.

Dude was, is and will always be about the $$$$.

When he was doing his podcast tours, someone shoulda asked him, "Would you rather play with Mahomes for $5m, or Mac Jones for $10M"

That's the real question that shoulda been asked.
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Old 06-09-2023, 11:23 AM   #2114
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Meh I don't know, I'm guessing he does want to sign with a contender BUT why not go visit some teams that are willing to pay you what you want FIRST before deciding? Might end up really liking the teams atmosphere and worst case he takes a look at all his options and maybe with taking a visit with non contending teams he gets more money from us or another contender.

Makes sense to me /shrug
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Old 06-09-2023, 11:25 AM   #2115
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Lol. So he gonna go play for Billy O' Brian eh?



Pats are the worst team in that division and have no shot at the playoffs.

Dude was, is and will always be about the $$$$.

When he was doing his podcast tours, someone shoulda asked him, "Would you rather play with Mahomes for $5m, or Mac Jones for $10M"

That's the real question that shoulda been asked.


This is why, Belichick loves the guy.
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