***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

That's not political.

If we booted everyone for anything that could possibly have political undertones or quoted by someone in politics or mere mention of political words, there would be like 3 people still posting in this thread.

It's just like people complaining about BlackBob or other trolls though.... there's far more hijacking of this thread from people complaining about politics than from actual political posts.

It was just funny that two posts before he bashed DC posters then posted a tweet between a conservative and liberal. Maybe he didn't realize it but still....

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It was just funny that two posts before he bashed DC posters then posted a tweet between a conservative and liberal. Maybe he didn't realize it but still....

It proves my point, I know jack and shit about politics nor do I have a desire to spin everything into the political toilet, I thought that was funny, end of thought.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It was just funny that two posts before he bashed DC posters then posted a tweet between a conservative and liberal. Maybe he didn't realize it but still....

You might be surprised at how many people in the world don't really pay attention to political pissing matches. I wouldn't have had a clue if people hadn't freaked out about it in the thread.

[petegz28]

So the death count in NY will pass 10k because of untested victims.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You might be surprised at how many people in the world don't really pay attention to political pissing matches. I wouldn't have had a clue if people hadn't freaked out about it in the thread.

I didn't even know who Candace Owens was, when I posted it I thought it was Ben Stiller being humorous to some random idiot who doesn't realize what the world is at the moment.

I actually still don't know who she is other than she is apparently known by people.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I actually don't even know who she is, I find Ben Stillers movies amusing, that is literally my relation to knowing who they are.

I had no idea what affiliation those people had , I understand I live in a different society but I have never seem anybody up use political affiliations to label someone.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I had no idea what affiliation those people had , I understand I live in a different society but I have never seem anybody up use political affiliations to label someone.

Apparently that is how the DC forum works, I really don't care about peoples political affiliations, politics blows.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I had no idea what affiliation those people had , I understand I live in a different society but I have never seem anybody up use political affiliations to label someone.

Go hang out in CPDC for awhile. You'll get a gut full of it.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Go hang out in CPDC for awhile. You'll get a gut full of it.

The few times I've gone over there I realize why I don't.....it's also really amusing how a bunch of the posters over there, never post in the lounge or about football.....that forum may be the worst thing to ever happen here.

[Donger]

A vaccine for coronavirus may be ready for use by emergency workers sometime this autumn, according to Dr. Kizzmekia Corbett, the National Institute of Health’s lead scientist for coronavirus vaccine research.

Corbett said that the vaccine could be ready for use by front-line health care workers as soon as this fall and for the global population by next spring. Her team is currently testing the safety of the vaccine in the first phase, and then will test its effectiveness in subsequent phases.

“We’re targeting fall for the emergency use. … And then for the general population, our target goal is for next spring — and that is, if all things go well and if these phase one, phase two and phase three clinical trials work simultaneously for the good, our plan is to have people vaccinated all over the world by next spring,” she told CNN’s Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

Vaccine development is typically a long process, and Corbett said that her team has actually been working on a coronavirus vaccine for years already.

“We’ve researched coronavirus vaccine development for the last 7 years — particularly under my direction, the team has researched this coronavirus development for 5 years. And so coming into the onset of this pandemic, we had an idea about what we wanted to do as far as the design of the vaccine,” Corbett said.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Go hang out in CPDC for awhile. You'll get a gut full of it.

I have learned a lot of new words and a bunch of them that were not introduced as insults now are considered some of the worst things on the planet , I had to go to confession, I never knew I was so evil.

[petegz28]

I'm seeing more and more talk about this being the result of an accident in a lab vs. something that came from a Chinese Wet Market.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by DaFace

This won't make any difference - I know - but can we all agree that "easing restrictions" is a good idea that will likely happen soon, but we should actually be talking about what that means?

No one in their right mind should be arguing that either 1) things should stay like this for the next 18 months or 2) MLB stadiums should be opened and full in a week. The discussion is about WHAT kinds of things can be relaxed, not WHETHER things will be relaxed.

On a local level, here, step one needs to be figuring out out how to get people convinced they can go to the local hospital without catching the Kung Flu.

This is just as much of a perception issue as it is a regulatory issue. Allowing some elective work might be the best way to ease into convincing people the hospital isn't a death trap.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaFace

This won't make any difference - I know - but can we all agree that "easing restrictions" is a good idea that will likely happen soon, but we should actually be talking about what that means?

No one in their right mind should be arguing that either 1) things should stay like this for the next 18 months or 2) MLB stadiums should be opened and full in a week. The discussion is about WHAT kinds of things can be relaxed, not WHETHER things will be relaxed.

Sports should start again in May... initially with no fans and then gradually introduce reduced capacities of fans.

"Non-essential" businesses/locations should all open in May... restaurants, haircut places, beaches, parks, etc. with adjusted operating procedures such as reduced capacities, spaced out seating at restaurants, staff wearing masks/gloves, etc.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Sports should start again in May... initially with no fans and then gradually introduce reduced capacities of fans.

"Non-essential" businesses/locations should all open in May... restaurants, haircut places, beaches, parks, etc. with adjusted operating procedures such as reduced capacities, spaced out seating at restaurants, staff wearing masks/gloves, etc.

It is just not where people are but where people have been , disinfecting those areas would be difficult.