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Mr_Tomahawk · 01-22-2019, 10:46 PM

Kris Richard please.

Hoover · 01-22-2019, 11:10 PM

maybe he can alter that tat of his to look like Mahomes

Katie · 01-23-2019, 12:45 AM

Rex and Andy co-existing.

Chris Meck · 01-23-2019, 04:39 AM

That's just not going to happen. Ryan's not going to mesh with Reid.

rico · 01-23-2019, 08:26 AM

I’m all about it for 3 reasons:

1.) He is an obvious bright defensive mind.

2.) He can be funny/entertaining... I love hearing him talk shit to the players from the sideline.

3.) The media likes to keep up with his shenanigans. The little extra media attention he will bring to the team by simply being himself would be great... I want the Chiefs to attain as much media attention as possible. Keep the Chiefs in a spot where they are too interesting and entertaining to where your big sports news networks have no choice but to routinely cover the Chiefs because the average fan wants to see it. Keep that bandwagon going. And in order to do so, gotta keep the Chiefs interesting, entertaining and a perennial threat to win. I want the Chiefs to become the premier football darlings of the Midwest in this generation that will spawn fans from all over the country who will have kids who will be Chiefs fans because their dads became Chiefs fans during the exciting Mahomes era. Kind of like the widespread fan base the Packers and Steelers have... or hell, the Cowboys. Tons of Cowboys, Steelers and Packers fans all over the place today because they had fans from around the nation who joined the bandwagon when they were hot... I want the Chiefs to have an era like that, where they were so good and entertaining, that a ton of people became Chiefs fans and stayed that way for generations. It seems like with those types of teams (the traditional powerhouses), that there is more of a consistent push to keep these teams relevant. I want the Chiefs to have an era where they are so good, that they will be infinitely relevant to the general spectator.

And what’s better way to receive the torch... The clash of the legend and the future at QB. The whole Gronk-Kelce thing. Reid, being a likable guy and a notoriously creative coach with his offense. And the whole Bellichik-Rex Ryan rivalry would be icing on the cake and something the NFL would run with... with all the shit that they’ve talked to each other, hell...there wouldn’t be a much more satisfying way to ending the Patriots reign with Mahomes-Reid-Ryan... a win like that would make up for this past weekend.

Coogs · 01-23-2019, 08:32 AM

I don't know how Rex and Rob Ryan's defenses compare, but Rob's was pretty much crap in Dallas and New Orleans. I apologize if someone has already mentioned this. I have not read the thread.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I don't know how Rex and Rob Ryan's defenses compare, but Rob's was pretty much crap in Dallas and New Orleans. I apologize if someone has already mentioned this. I have not read the thread.

Simple answer is they don’t compare, Rex has always been the better coach

Coogs · 01-23-2019, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Simple answer is they don’t compare, Rex has always been the better coach

While the second part is probably accurate, I'm guessing there are more similarities than differences within the scheme/philosophy of the defense.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

While the second part is probably accurate, I'm guessing there are more similarities than differences within the scheme/philosophy of the defense.

There are,

But the Scheme is not the problem, the adjustments were.

Rob Ryan was never good at making adjustments in game, he was just a rah rah guy.

Rex Ryan has proven to make many adjustments to game plans during and before. Not only that he does have ahead Coaching exp, so Andy can keep sitting on bench with Mahome and Rex can take over.

People claiming these schemes are old and don’t work don’t know football. Wade Phillips scheme hasn’t changed at all, but he can make adjustments.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 08:54 AM

Hell Patriots have played the same defense for years! And they have way less talent now then they did early 2000s but somehow they always “take away what you do best” because they make ADJUSTMENTS

If that doesn’t explain how it’s not the scheme and it’s all coaching I don’t know what else will

Chris Meck · 01-23-2019, 08:56 AM

We were 31st in defense with 3 #1 picks, 4 #2 picks, Houston and a bunch of #3 picks. That's bottom feeder results with pretty good talent level.

Coaching and scheme are really ****ing important.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

We were 31st in defense with 3 #1 picks, 4 #2 picks, Houston and a bunch of #3 picks. That's bottom feeder results with pretty good talent level.

Coaching and scheme are really ****ing important.

Agreed,

But scheme doesn’t have anything to do with Bob playing cover 2 3 times in a row on 3rd and 10. That’s ****ing coaching.

Chris Meck · 01-23-2019, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Agreed,

But scheme doesn’t have anything to do with Bob playing cover 2 3 times in a row on 3rd and 10. That’s ****ing coaching.

um, no. That's literally the scheme. It's the coverage he called, which is...the scheme. The plan. Synonyms. Words that mean the same thing.

coaching deficiency is when guys don't know where to line up. Or when to release, or how to mirror, or what hole to fill. We have that problem too.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

um, no. That's literally the scheme. It's the coverage he called, which is...the scheme. The plan. Synonyms. Words that mean the same thing.

coaching deficiency is when guys don't know where to line up. Or when to release, or how to mirror, or what hole to fill. We have that problem too.

Coaching is knowing what play to call and when too, Yes the defense he played was PART OF THE SCHEME but it was the wrong part of the scheme to be using.

That falls on coaching, Coaches make the defensive calls. The fact we didn't play cover 0, or use double teams falls on coaching.

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rico ON CP YOU’RE SOMEBODY’S BITCH! rico's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Da SEI	I’m all about it for 3 reasons: 1.) He is an obvious bright defensive mind. 2.) He can be funny/entertaining... I love hearing him talk shit to the players from the sideline. 3.) The media likes to keep up with his shenanigans. The little extra media attention he will bring to the team by simply being himself would be great... I want the Chiefs to attain as much media attention as possible. Keep the Chiefs in a spot where they are too interesting and entertaining to where your big sports news networks have no choice but to routinely cover the Chiefs because the average fan wants to see it. Keep that bandwagon going. And in order to do so, gotta keep the Chiefs interesting, entertaining and a perennial threat to win. I want the Chiefs to become the premier football darlings of the Midwest in this generation that will spawn fans from all over the country who will have kids who will be Chiefs fans because their dads became Chiefs fans during the exciting Mahomes era. Kind of like the widespread fan base the Packers and Steelers have... or hell, the Cowboys. Tons of Cowboys, Steelers and Packers fans all over the place today because they had fans from around the nation who joined the bandwagon when they were hot... I want the Chiefs to have an era like that, where they were so good and entertaining, that a ton of people became Chiefs fans and stayed that way for generations. It seems like with those types of teams (the traditional powerhouses), that there is more of a consistent push to keep these teams relevant. I want the Chiefs to have an era where they are so good, that they will be infinitely relevant to the general spectator. And what’s better way to receive the torch... The clash of the legend and the future at QB. The whole Gronk-Kelce thing. Reid, being a likable guy and a notoriously creative coach with his offense. And the whole Bellichik-Rex Ryan rivalry would be icing on the cake and something the NFL would run with... with all the shit that they’ve talked to each other, hell...there wouldn’t be a much more satisfying way to ending the Patriots reign with Mahomes-Reid-Ryan... a win like that would make up for this past weekend.
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BleedingRed THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!! BleedingRed's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Houston, Tx	Hell Patriots have played the same defense for years! And they have way less talent now then they did early 2000s but somehow they always “take away what you do best” because they make ADJUSTMENTS If that doesn’t explain how it’s not the scheme and it’s all coaching I don’t know what else will
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Chris Meck MVP Chris Meck's Avatar Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC	We were 31st in defense with 3 #1 picks, 4 #2 picks, Houston and a bunch of #3 picks. That's bottom feeder results with pretty good talent level. Coaching and scheme are really ****ing important.
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