***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Numbers are tracking better than yesterday.

Can't be. I was told that yesterday's lower numbers were literally 100% because it was Sunday.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Can't be. I was told that yesterday's lower numbers were literally 100% because it was Sunday.

No, you were told not to make too much of a one day dip.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No, you were told not to make too much of a one day dip.

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Im 100% sure its because it's Sunday. The same thing happened last Sunday.

Yea, no.....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sunday and Easter, but numbers are looking "good."

25,568 new cases. 1,414 new deaths.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Could be one of the best days in a while

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

Im 100% sure its because it's Sunday. The same thing happened last Sunday.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And the Sunday before that.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

and the Sunday before that too.

Originally Posted by Donger

Numbers are tracking better than yesterday.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Can't be. I was told that yesterday's lower numbers were literally 100% because it was Sunday.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No, you were told not to make too much of a one day dip.

Yeah, no.....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Numbers are tracking better than yesterday.

At this rate though new deaths might still come in same as yesterday but new cases could be down. We knew deaths were going to lag....

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Ok I agree we need serology testing. What happens when it shows that only a small % have been infected?

First you have to define what percentages you hope for and what certain amounts might mean but given the ease of spread, and statements on estimates from various authorities of at least 10x the amount of infections as their are of reports and possibly more I’m pretty confident it would be a substantial number that we could work with to open things up and otherwise guide decisions.

[TLO]

Mr. Pete - how has the weekly trend looked for Missouri?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, no.....

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Can't be. I was told that yesterday's lower numbers were literally 100% because it was Sunday.

This type of bullshit needs to stop. Unprovoked shots at other posters tend to derail this thread and I'm getting ****ing tired of it.

And I'm not saying that its just you.

[Marcellus]

Serious question, why is Texas doing so well given they have several largely populated cities and the 2nd highest total population by state?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Serious question, why is Texas doing so well given they have several largely populated cities and the 2nd highest total population by state?

Not as many people travelled there? Maybe people from overseas don’t got there as much but I’m just spitballing here lol

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Not as many people travelled there? Maybe people from overseas don’t got there as much but I’m just spitballing here lol

Nah Dallas was one of few Cities to take people after they closed borders from Europe etc.

And Houston has a huge Asian population.

The real reason probably has more to do with how spaced out we are. I drive 38 miles one way to get to office that is on the very north side of down town. And I live in Houston on North side. Add in the fact we have some of the best medical facilities in the world, and a SHIT LOAD of doctors, we were just better positioned than those on NE.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Mr. Pete - how has the weekly trend looked for Missouri?

Case growth still appears to be at a slower rate than say this time last week.

KC and Jackson county continue to show slow growth but STL is still running about where they have been

[Ninerfan11]

Numbers getting better and better, and we still have two weeks left. This is great news everyone.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Serious question, why is Texas doing so well given they have several largely populated cities and the 2nd highest total population by state?

Supposedly they started the HCQ type treatments early but again, supposedly