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11-07-2019, 01:19 AM | #1996 | |
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11-07-2019, 04:59 AM | #1997 | |
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The Seattle Seahawks reeled in a huge fish without using much bait. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Saturday that the Seahawks traded for Houston Texans franchise-tagged pass rusher Jadeveon Clowney in exchange for a third-round pick, linebacker Jacob Martin and pass rusher Barkevious Mingo, per sources informed of the situation. Per NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, the Texans agreed to pay $7 million toward Clowney's salary to complete yesterday's trade with the Seahawks, who agreed not to franchise tag Clowney a second time next year, per source. The trade is a coup for Seahawks general manager John Schneider. Not only did the Seahawks secure a pass rusher who fits perfectly into Pete Carroll's system, but didn't have to break up their offensive line or give up a prominent piece to get Clowney. And if Clowney leaves in free agency -- the team can't begin negotiations on any potential long-term deal until after the season -- Seattle could recoup that third-rounder with a compensatory pick. |
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11-07-2019, 09:39 AM | #1998 |
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks
Comparing the compensation for Clowney and Clark is minimally useful.
If you truly believe the Texans would have traded Clowney in Conference, to a team they are contending against, like the Chiefs, for the same price, I think you’re way off base. The Chiefs would have paid a premium for Clowney compared to the Seahawks (there’s also the matter of timing - The Texans had fewer bidders than the Seahawks). Last edited by duncan_idaho; 11-07-2019 at 11:13 AM.. |
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11-07-2019, 09:44 AM | #1999 |
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11-07-2019, 09:58 AM | #2000 | |
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But we were somehow supposed to know they would end up with no GM and that price would drop to a 3rd? |
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11-07-2019, 10:02 AM | #2001 |
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In the compensation matter with Frank Clark...
Chiefs gave up their 1st and 2nd, which many here say the value of those picks is actually a 2nd and 3rd due to us picking one of the last slots. If that is your stance on the value, then Veach pretty much made up for that 2nd rd pick compensation with the Martinas Rankin trade. Rankin was a 3rd rd pick and we traded a cheap FA RB (who embarrassingly fumbled last weekend ) for arguably the best LG in the Andy Reid era, who is on his cheap rookie contract until Spring 2022. I still did not like giving up that added 2nd for him, but this makes me feel better about it. |
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11-07-2019, 10:05 AM | #2002 |
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Frank Clark is a much better fit here than Clowney. I think he will come back healthy and will prove all the haters wrong. It sounds like he is a great locker room guy and has the nasty we needed... I will patiently wait, but it is much to early for a final verdict.
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11-07-2019, 10:07 AM | #2003 |
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Also, major props to Spags, Veach and the staff for not sitting on their asses after getting Okafor, Clark and drafting Saunders.
They could have easily said “okay we’re good here.” but they kept looking and ended up raping John Dorsey for Emmanuel Ogbah. I still can’t beliebe Dorsey agreed to give this guy up for Eric freaking Murray |
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11-07-2019, 10:18 AM | #2004 | |
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The mistake many seem to be making is writing the player off only 9 weeks into the trade/contract. No less after his most recent game was a dominant performance. If you’re grading the Clark deal at this point as if all is set in stone, that’s your mistake. |
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11-07-2019, 12:12 PM | #2005 | |
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The Charvarius Ward for Parker Ehinger is a trade where Veach hosed the Cowboys. The Cowboys should have never done that trade most likely. You cannot say the same about Ogbah, a player who is on his last year of his contract on top of that. As for Clark, as others have said, fans need to be patient. You see plenty of players in this league start off cold and become great and vice versa and at any point in their career or even during any one season. |
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11-07-2019, 12:18 PM | #2006 | |
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11-07-2019, 02:01 PM | #2007 | |
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11-07-2019, 02:05 PM | #2008 | |
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Second, we got him because Veach identified a talented young player stuck in a deep group buried on the depth chart. He gets the credit for that, not “karma”. |
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11-07-2019, 02:15 PM | #2009 |
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Lighten up, francis.
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11-07-2019, 02:17 PM | #2010 | |
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We all knew Murray sucked http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ht=Eric+Murray That trade was a raping for Dorsey. |
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