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12-17-2017, 02:58 PM | #1996 |
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12-17-2017, 03:05 PM | #1997 |
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Why anyone is bitching about Snokes lack of backstory is beyond me. How many antagonists actually get fleshed out backstories in these movies? Emperor? None till prequels. Vader? Prequels were made to show his backstory. Maul? . Dooku? . Grievous? GTFO. Kylo is the big bad of this trilogy, and he's getting the most backstory by far in the trilogy he's featured in.
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12-17-2017, 03:05 PM | #1998 | |
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1) Who trained Rey? Luke spent several months training with Yoda, and we're supposed to believe Rey can do what she can do without any training, aside from two "lessons" from Luke? The only way the Rey story makes any sort of sense if she had training as a child, but got her memory force wiped. 2) Luke's death is a huge disservice. Yes, the force projection was cool, but are we really expected to be okay with the most powerful light-side force user of all time having a 2 minute "fight" with Kylo, and that's it?! Not to mention, Luke giving up on Kylo goes his entire characterization in the orginal trilogy. He didn't give up on his father, who massacred thousands of Jedi and destroyed entire planets. He's going to give up on his nephew? Okaaaay. 3) Hyperspace-kamikaze is now a thing. WHY IN THE FORCE hasn't it been used before?! The whole battle of the Forest Moon of Endor is now worthless, not to mention the ENTIRE plot of ANH. 4) The way balance in the force was used in TLJ doesn't sit right with me. The force bringing balance is reactionary. This whole Rey = light sided Kylo and vice versa introduces huge meta-philosophical issues with the Star Wars universe, namely predestination and lack of free will. |
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12-17-2017, 03:06 PM | #1999 |
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It's not a problem. This isn't the prequels again, where shitty movies make gobs of money and keep getting made.
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12-17-2017, 03:13 PM | #2000 | |
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I fully except Oprah to show up in Rian's new trilogy handing out Lightsabers like candy since Training is no longer needed in the Star wars universe. |
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12-17-2017, 03:14 PM | #2001 | |
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I would say it split the fan base right down the middle. |
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12-17-2017, 03:16 PM | #2002 | |
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TLJ starts off right at the end of TFA no time skip or anything Rey nor Kylo got any training what so ever. |
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12-17-2017, 03:16 PM | #2003 | |
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12-17-2017, 03:19 PM | #2004 |
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Kylo did get training under Luke though. Rey, however, has had no training whatsoever. It's stupid and makes no sense.
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12-17-2017, 03:21 PM | #2005 |
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The vast majority of SW fans ****ing love this film. Because they're just like me. I am the target audience and Rian Johnson NAILED the target. |
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12-17-2017, 03:34 PM | #2008 | |
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A ton of Youtuber Star wars channels seem quite angry about the movie. |
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12-17-2017, 03:35 PM | #2009 | |
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She beat Kylo in TFA swinging wildly and using the force she also force tricked 2 storm troopers with no training. All of sudden in the 2nd movie is pulling off complex Lightsaber moves while swinging at rock with Zero training what so ever ? |
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12-17-2017, 03:37 PM | #2010 |
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