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Old 02-27-2019, 02:22 PM  
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Old 02-28-2019, 04:01 AM   #181
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Old 02-28-2019, 04:40 AM   #182
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It is nice to know we have so many message board certified doctors on CP. Next time Berry needs medical advice I'm sure his agent will advise him to come on here instead of going to see a doctor from a hospital.
Sounds like someone’s jazzed for another season of EB being day to day.
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Old 02-28-2019, 04:46 AM   #183
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On a side note, the worst contract Dorsey ever laid upon the Chiefs by a mile. Didn't look horrific at the time but it's an abomination.
The leaks from the FO were that Dorsey was fired (at least in part) because he let the Houston and Berry talks “simmer” while re-signing his guys. Both are going to be cut/traded this offseason.

Don’t throw this on Dorsey. CHunt wanted his inspirational ticket seller.

“The five-year, $41.25 million deal for guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif in February. This deal came, like Fisher’s, in Duvernay-Tardif’s first offseason eligible for a second contract. Meanwhile, the Justin Houston and Eric Berry contract talks simmered—cap guru Trip MacCracken was let go last month—and the team has spent the past couple years perilously close to the salary cap.”
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:22 AM   #184
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Don’t throw this on Dorsey. CHunt wanted his inspirational ticket seller.
Come on. Aside from being NFL Comeback Player of the Year, he had been an All-Pro safety each of the prior two seasons. A little more than an inspirational ticket seller, no?

The article in The Athletic said the doctor's expectation was that the foot would 'mend' without surgery. Clearly he wasn't playing at 100pct last season and was in a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situation which is evidenced by a lot of the comments here. Berry doesn't play? Lazy mother****er. Berry plays at less than 100pct and it shows? Brokedick mother****er. If he had gotten his hand up a split second earlier, he breaks up the pass to Gronk, we're in the Super Bowl, and the narrative changes.

I think we'll end up keeping Berry. I realize most of you don't subscribe to that sort of belief, but the Chiefs may find it risky to get rid of both Houston and him at the same time, the two guys who have been the vocal leaders of this defense. (And yes, I realize that this defense was historically bad and can only get better, but the Chiefs front office may feel blowing everything up in one offseason is too drastic.)

Not saying I agree or disagree with any of the above, but I suspect this is our reality.
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:32 AM   #185
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Come on. Aside from being NFL Comeback Player of the Year, he had been an All-Pro safety each of the prior two seasons. A little more than an inspirational ticket seller, no?

The article in The Athletic said the doctor's expectation was that the foot would 'mend' without surgery. Clearly he wasn't playing at 100pct last season and was in a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situation which is evidenced by a lot of the comments here. Berry doesn't play? Lazy mother****er. Berry plays at less than 100pct and it shows? Brokedick mother****er. If he had gotten his hand up a split second earlier, he breaks up the pass to Gronk, we're in the Super Bowl, and the narrative changes.

I think we'll end up keeping Berry. I realize most of you don't subscribe to that sort of belief, but the Chiefs may find it risky to get rid of both Houston and him at the same time, the two guys who have been the vocal leaders of this defense. (And yes, I realize that this defense was historically bad and can only get better, but the Chiefs front office may feel blowing everything up in one offseason is too drastic.)

Not saying I agree or disagree with any of the above, but I suspect this is our reality.
Your Berry bandwagon feeling a little lonely these days??
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:38 AM   #186
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lol. If they're keeping Berry, they're not doing so for any meaningful contributions on the field.

That day is long past, and there is no risk whatsoever in cutting this player. It's far riskier to put him in situations of importance.

If they want to keep him to make speeches to the other players( which would be dumb as **** because he's not actually playing as a team mate and helping to contribute ), and to take a lesser cap hit when cutting him next season, that's fine by me. Just keep his slow ass off the field.
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:45 AM   #187
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Your Berry bandwagon feeling a little lonely these days??
Yes, I thought Berry would contribute more if he came back last season. I also thought he would only come back if he were healthy. I'm just crestfallen and can hardly look myself in the mirror anymore as this has just consumed every ounce of my being.
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:54 AM   #188
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I'm just glad we will find out soon enough if he's cut.

I don't want this in limbo during the most important offseason in Chiefs history.
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:59 AM   #189
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Come on. Aside from being NFL Comeback Player of the Year, he had been an All-Pro safety each of the prior two seasons. A little more than an inspirational ticket seller, no?

The article in The Athletic said the doctor's expectation was that the foot would 'mend' without surgery. Clearly he wasn't playing at 100pct last season and was in a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situation which is evidenced by a lot of the comments here. Berry doesn't play? Lazy mother****er. Berry plays at less than 100pct and it shows? Brokedick mother****er. If he had gotten his hand up a split second earlier, he breaks up the pass to Gronk, we're in the Super Bowl, and the narrative changes.

I think we'll end up keeping Berry. I realize most of you don't subscribe to that sort of belief, but the Chiefs may find it risky to get rid of both Houston and him at the same time, the two guys who have been the vocal leaders of this defense. (And yes, I realize that this defense was historically bad and can only get better, but the Chiefs front office may feel blowing everything up in one offseason is too drastic.)

Not saying I agree or disagree with any of the above, but I suspect this is our reality.
I mean, they probably weren't wrong.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:10 AM   #190
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I mean, they probably weren't wrong.
Berry isn't lazy. He beat cancer, came back not only played in the NFL but played at a Pro Bowl level. His work ethic is legendary even among professional athletes who are notorious for taking care of their bodies.

It is probably one of the reasons he still has the respect of his teammates. They see how hard he is working to get out there and play.

You guys act like he is sitting at home playing COD and drinking beer every day. **** outta here that bs.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:12 AM   #191
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Berry isn't lazy. He beat cancer, came back not only played in the NFL but played at a Pro Bowl level. His work ethic is legendary even among professional athletes who are notorious for taking care of their bodies.

It is probably one of the reasons he still has the respect of his teammates. They see how hard he was working to get out there and play.

You guys act like he is sitting at home playing COD and drinking beer every day. **** outta here that bs.
I didn't mean lazy as in work ethic. It was more about not being on the field when he probably could have been on the field.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:14 AM   #192
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I didn't mean lazy as in work ethic. It was more about not being on the field when he probably could have been on the field.
And you know this how?
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:26 AM   #193
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And you know this how?
After sitting out for 4 months it's likely he could have played against Baltimore on Sunday if he was ready to play against LA Chargers a few days later on Thursday
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:28 AM   #194
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It is nice to know we have so many message board certified doctors on CP. Next time Berry needs medical advice I'm sure his agent will advise him to come on here instead of going to see a doctor from a hospital.
Serious question... Are you still thinking he wasn't just out to **** the Chiefs out of money? I mean we all know he has Haglunds, but are you really thinking the way he handled it wasn't to just get his cash and didn't really give a shit how it affected the team?
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:30 AM   #195
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lol. If they're keeping Berry, they're not doing so for any meaningful contributions on the field.

That day is long past, and there is no risk whatsoever in cutting this player. It's far riskier to put him in situations of importance.

If they want to keep him to make speeches to the other players( which would be dumb as **** because he's not actually playing as a team mate and helping to contribute ), and to take a lesser cap hit when cutting him next season, that's fine by me. Just keep his slow ass off the field.
All of this.
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