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Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"
Anyone watch the unveil last night?
The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible. - 0-60 in 5 sec - 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs - 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi - 500 mile range - 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge - Guaranteed 7¢/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil - Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road) - 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown - Will never need a brake change - "Impossible" to jacknife - Beats semis on economics day 1 - In convoy mode, beats rail on economics 300 miles of range: $150,000 500 miles of range: $180,000 Founders series: $200,000 https://youtu.be/CBTQnmUolas The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg. - 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars) - 0-100 in 4.2 - 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec - 250+ mph top speed - 621 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling) - 10,000 nm torque and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars. Also teased a rendering image of a consumer pickup truck with a normal truck in the bed. https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA Last edited by aturnis; 11-23-2017 at 02:02 AM.. |
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05-13-2018, 10:57 AM | #181 |
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05-13-2018, 01:10 PM | #182 |
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05-13-2018, 02:29 PM | #183 | |
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I also remember that for everyone Amazon there were hundreds of dot.com bubble companies that did in fact go bankrupt. Facebook wasn't the only social media company. Google wasn't the only search engine. Apple wasn't the only company making music players. Musk has done an amazing job with his space rocket company. For his car company he has created a prestigious brand and an impressive sport car. It really remains to be seen whether he can mass produce a mid-price car in sufficient volume and reliability to make a go of it. His track record so far is very poor. I'm curious also as to why he thought it was better to jump to a full sized electric Semi instead of doing a smaller delivery truck. Long distance trucking produces all sorts of headaches regarding range and re-charging. An urban delivery truck that spends a lot of time loading/unloading and stuck in slow moving traffic wouldn't need near the same range and always returns to the same location at night for charging. |
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05-13-2018, 05:56 PM | #186 |
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None of this matters. Tesla will be out of business in less than 10 years...
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05-13-2018, 09:03 PM | #189 |
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Maybe 2019, maybe 2020. Who cares if it's late? So long as it destroys everything else out there and gets there first. Everyone wins, especially investors.
Daimler says the Semi brains the laws of physics at a 500 mile range, and Musk claims they'll achieve 600. Seems to me they'll have a sizeable lead. Buehler, doing the math I'm using, the Tesla should weigh in at about the same as an average sleeper truck. They have the semis on the roads testing now. Not sure what's hard to believe about something that exists. Last edited by aturnis; 05-13-2018 at 09:52 PM.. |
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Tesla has MUCH better profit margins than traditional OEMs, aim for 25% across the board as o pad to the 5% industry standard. And production/profitability seems to literally be only a matter of time. At least, I can't think of any real hurdles to this. Really the hardest part is growing and managing your supply chain in unison. As far as track records, I mean, hasn't he accomplished all of his goals since 2012 up until this point? I bet you'd be hard pressed to find others who have done so well. As for going big rig first, it's all about destroying conventional solutions to destroy conventional wisdom. If he came out with a competitor for the F150, there'd be all of this false narrative about an electric truck not getting the job done. They'd likely struggle to gain market share in multiple markets for years due to nothing more than ignorance and bias. If he destroys semis with an electric option, the news will get out, and those people spending ridiculous amounts on trucks will be forced to take notice immediately. It's the "beat up the biggest guy in the prison yard" strategy coupled with what DaFace said. Last edited by aturnis; 05-13-2018 at 09:32 PM.. |
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My autopilot actually saved me from an accident the other day on Ridgeview. Some guy tried to pull out of the car wash and go COMPLETELY to the otherside of the street to a business. And the car stopped in time. Combine this all with the fact that this is the first autonomous optioned car, ever (meaning they will constantly make improvements every year) it is a great success. Auto Pilot enabled Tesla's have been found to be 3-4 times safer than older non AP Teslas..... |
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