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Mahomes And Other Starters To Sit Out
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Patrick out Sunday.. Not sure about Kelce and 1000 yds.. According to Andy’s Presser.. |
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01-06-2024, 03:08 PM | #181 |
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Kelce is much better after the catch.. Tony overpowered DBs and LBs for catches.. Travis singlehanded won OT games. Tony was the difference in some of his games..
I prefer Kelce but there is an argument for Tony.. Travis 1A, Tony1B... |
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01-06-2024, 03:32 PM | #182 | |
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1997 2003 2006 He was only 21 in 1997. Caught a TD in the playoff game. Had another TD that was disallowed on a controversial play. He certainly made more impact in that game than in the regular season. In 2003, it was the famous No Punt Game. He had 4 catches for 55 yards. One TD that was disallowed on a controversial PI. You can't blame Gonzalez for that loss. The offense didn't punt the entire game. In 2006, that was the Herman Edwards game. No first downs in the first half. Unimaginative playcalling. Gonzalez had a TD late in the game in garbage time. Kelce wouldn't win that game by himself either. |
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01-06-2024, 03:40 PM | #183 |
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Gonzalez had way better hands than Kelce and I think he fumbled less. Kelce is more explosive though.
Id take Kelce but I could see how someone could make a good case that Gonzalez was the better TE. |
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01-06-2024, 03:42 PM | #184 | |
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Kelce had Mahomes in comparison to the merry go round at QB for Gonzalez. LOL, with Patrick Tony probably have better production that could dwarf Travis. |
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01-06-2024, 03:45 PM | #185 | |
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Kelce is much faster and despite a similar size as Tony G, he runs away from defenders rather than through them. He plays more like a WR after the catch. Kelce is a better fit for Mahomes and this offense, but I view Tony Gonzalez in the playoffs much like I view Barry Sanders in the playoffs. I'm not going to criticize it considering the larger context. |
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01-06-2024, 03:55 PM | #186 |
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Tony Gonzalez would run straight for 15 yards and just make a jump ball catch. He made a career out of it. Very different style of TE than Kelce.
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01-06-2024, 04:18 PM | #187 |
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Not saying he was better than Kelce but Gonzalez played more years in a tougher era for pass catchers. Tougher to get yards and TDs. That needs to be looked at when putting their numbers in context. I can still see preference for Kelce over Gonzalez but yards and TDs were tougher to get in the late 90's/early 2000's for a TE/receiver than it has been the past 10 years.
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01-06-2024, 05:08 PM | #188 |
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Gonzalez is the GOAT tight end. end of story. More catches than anyone in NFL history other than Rice and Fitzgerald and most yards of any tight end. And Tony worked hard at improving his blocking over his career. Also, Gonzalez did great with a whole bunch of average QBs, while Kelce did not until Mahomes arrived here.
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01-06-2024, 05:33 PM | #189 | |
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i’ll give you Gronk was a better blocker than Gonzelez and Kelce, but the guy was always hurt. Can’t help the club if you are always in the tub. Gronk is only 6th in receiving yards for tight ends and 3rd in receiving touch downs…well behind Gonzelez.
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01-06-2024, 06:14 PM | #192 |
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01-06-2024, 06:35 PM | #193 |
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Patriots fans, wake me up when you win more than 3 super bowls without cheating…
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01-06-2024, 06:40 PM | #194 |
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01-06-2024, 06:45 PM | #195 | |
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Because I'm pretty sure he did. But obviously Mahomes elevated the offense and he put more yards. Kelce is the GOAT and I think it can be debated, but Kelce has the rings, the stats, like double the number of 1K+ yard plus seasons than Tony G, the playoff stats. I think a better debate would be who is the 2nd best, Tony G or Gronk. |
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