***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[arrowheadnation]

"Fauci: We're on track for a more 'normal' summer..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci...opening-in-may

[2112]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

5 months to this day I had my last cigarette. I've quit many times before and I'm certain it's going to stick this time. It just feels different.

It will be 20 years in September for me since I quit. And I smoked from since I was 12 years old until I was 35. I did it cold turkey and you could still smoke in all bars back then so it’s probably easier now. It took two ****ing years for me to get those ****ing things out of my head. You revolve your daily activities around them coffee, food, beers et al.

When I quit Marlboro lights were $4.00 a pack. I was working in NY about 5-6 years ago and a guy I was working asked me to get him a pack of Marlboro “silver”<(Wtf is that?) Anyways $13.00 for a ****ing pack of cigarettes. Holy shit.

FTR I still smoke cigars at football tailgates and in my backyard with a glass of bourbon or scotch when the weather is nice

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by 2112

It will be 20 years in September for me since I quit. And I smoked from since I was 12 years old until I was 35. I did it cold turkey and you could still smoke in all bars back then so it’s probably easier now. It took two ****ing years for me to get those ****ing things out of my head. You revolve your daily activities around them coffee, food, beers et al.

When I quit Marlboro lights were $4.00 a pack. I was working in NY about 5-6 years ago and a guy I was working asked me to get him a pack of Marlboro “silver”<(Wtf is that?) Anyways $13.00 for a ****ing pack of cigarettes. Holy shit.

FTR I still smoke cigars at football tailgates and in my backyard with a glass of bourbon or scotch when the weather is nice

Do you still get the random craving for one?

[2112]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Do you still get the random craving for one?

No, not really. I used to but that was a long time ago.

I got asthma from that shit. So when I was in my pulmonary doctors office 20 years ago I saw a chart he had on the wall of age and lung capacity for a smoker. After 35 years old the scale dropped off the chart and that hit home. So I quit on my 35th birthday. I saw an ann landers article from the American cancer society about the top 100 effects to your body after quitting smoking. So I kept a copy in my work truck, my personal truck lol almost everywhere. And when I did have the craving I would pull out that copy and read it and that made those cravings go away.

Look at it this way. People spend money on their cars and their houses and they don’t take care of their own body’s. I had way too much invested in my retirement to spend it horizontal.


Edit: I gained weight for about two years but my attitude was I’ll deal with that after I get over the smoking. Then I started working out like a demon and the asthma actually went away. I haven’t had breathing problems in 20 years either

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

"Fauci: We're on track for a more 'normal' summer..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci...opening-in-may

Meant to thumbs up. My bad.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by TLO

Welp. I'll try and go cold turkey tomorrow and fail. Wish me luck!

Can I have your camel cash?

[KCUnited]

I can see how they'd be confused about being essential

Kansas City Orders Guitar Center Facility To Close After It Defied Stay-At-Home Order

https://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-cit...eMlUc#stream/0

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

"Fauci: We're on track for a more 'normal' summer..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci...opening-in-may

He's got Lucy's poontang power

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Ive wondered when authorities would step in and shut oof the flow of people shopping at WalMart like its county fair time. Whole families dragging through and you know they are high likely to spread the bug

https://www.kctv5.com/news/us_world_...8b4cf71c2.html

Our Wal-Marts have capped number of people in the store at a time. I have yet to go to a store and have to wait for entry, but they do have a "corral" with a greeter there and another person staffing the exit. They keep tabs on number of people in the store and will create a queue if the limit is exceeded. They were also supposedly going to create directional flow guidelines in the aisles, but that hasn't been implemented yet that I've seen.

[neech]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Our Wal-Marts have capped number of people in the store at a time. I have yet to go to a store and have to wait for entry, but they do have a "corral" with a greeter there and another person staffing the exit. They keep tabs on number of people in the store and will create a queue if the limit is exceeded. They were also supposedly going to create directional flow guidelines in the aisles, but that hasn't been implemented yet that I've seen.

They have the corral lines at the one over by me, I didn't think the store was busy enough to where people had to wait in a line to get in though.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Making rounds on Facebook and Twitter. Independence Costco has some employees that have been tested positive.

@trytostopJane: Independence MO
#Costco
#COV19
#StayAtHome https://twitter.com/trytostopJane/st...475138/photo/1

That's lovely considering I was there last week.

[neech]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Oh hell I was expecting something completely obscure. I do remember buying those for a while, probably when they first came out and they were promoting them but I don't recall them really standing out in any way and moved on to something else eventually.

Anyway, thanks for the info, I'll look around for them pass it on to TLO

You know about all the subliminal drawings on those Camel cigarettes packages right?

[petegz28]

Holy shit...I think this is the first time I have gone to Worldometers and not seen any new deaths out of CA. They usually are one of the first to report some deaths even if it isn't their total. They have reported new cases but no new deaths. I'm gonna roll with that as good news.

[neech]

Originally Posted by TLO

Tomorrow I will try for a realistic goal of 3 cigarettes.

Yeah, sure.

[neech]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Holy shit...I think this is the first time I have gone to Worldometers and not seen any new deaths out of CA. They usually are one of the first to report some deaths even if it isn't their total. They have reported new cases but no new deaths. I'm gonna roll with that as good news.

You think that's a big deal I have one even better...

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ovid-19-deaths