***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Contrarian for sure

Is not.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

They were sold out

It’s old charter for you

I've never heard of this and don't trust you to not just send me something you mopped off a bar mat.

Maybe just use that to clean your instruments. Oh who am I kidding? You're only almost a real doctor - you don't clean your instruments.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Are you trying to prove anything other than you have reading comprehension issues?

That post shows you insinuating that the epidemiologists in question weren't acting in good faith. Having word issues again?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You don't read it anyway so no, I'm not typing for the "hey, could you dumb that down so the 'arrest anyone that leaves their home' crowd can understand?".

Short enough for you sweetheart?

Don't wanna read it, don't read it. You won't offer anything useful in response anyway.

via GIPHY

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm just here to give him things to downvote while not reading them because they take 30 more seconds to parse through than a couple of one-liners.

That's 30 seconds he could be using finding people on Twitter who can make his arguments for him.

I'm just damn disappointed I couldn't reach him, Buehler. He's such a promising student...

I post articles to keep my fellow Chief fans informed about what is going on. Not to further my argument. I don't even have an argument one way or the other. I just trust guys like Fauci.

I should listen to you over Fauci? Not happening...

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

That post shows you insinuating that the epidemiologists in question weren't acting in good faith. Having word issues again?

No it doesn't show that at all.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No I don't.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I've never heard of this and don't trust you to not just send me something you mopped off a bar mat.

Maybe just use that to clean your instruments. Oh who am I kidding? You're only almost a real doctor - you don't clean your instruments.

I wish I didn’t have to clean them. Of course I have to buy a new sterilizer the week before the world ends

Oh well

And old charter is a great whiskey. It’s the choice whiskey of thayer MO

It’s normally found on the bottom shelf of most liquor stores

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

No it doesn't show that at all.

Yes, it does:

and bunch of infectious disease specialist who have been waiting their whole career for "the big one" jumped in and started a snowball effect with their doomsday models

[PAChiefsGuy]

Coronavirus outbreak should begin to turn around after ‘bad week for deaths,’ White House advisor Dr. Fauci says

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/coro...auci-says.html

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

I wish I didn’t have to clean them. Of course I have to buy a new sterilizer the week before the world ends

Oh well

And old charter is a great whiskey. It’s the choice whiskey of thayer MO

It’s normally found on the bottom shelf of most liquor stores

They should put it on the floor.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

They should put it on the floor.

Feeling any better today?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I post articles to keep my fellow Chief fans informed about what is going on. Not to further my argument. I don't even have an argument one way or the other. I just trust guys like Fauci.

I should listen to you over Fauci? Not happening...

{sigh}

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Fauci said he does not anticipate a situation where a national shutdown will be necessary.

That's the other problem - there's literally hours of conversation from Fauci (who has been an invaluable source of information throughout this) - but it's being cut apart piecemeal to be put to use by both sides to their own ends.

.....

I would absolutely encourage people to listen to Fauci over me - duh. The guy's great. But actually listen to damn near everything he says. He's not really an alarmist, nor does he claim to know what's actually going to happen.

I'd use my post above from several weeks ago to attempt to explain the difference between outright disagreement vs. attempting to approach a conversation from a different perspective that hasn't been discussed yet, but it kinda gets back to this:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

[N]o, I'm not typing for the "hey, could you dumb that down so the 'arrest anyone that leaves their home' crowd can understand?".

You don't pay any attention to what anyone who doesn't agree with you in total lockstep says anyway. And even then, you have no thoughts of your own to actually offer. You've checked any willingness you ever had to analyse information at the door....and frankly you almost certainly never had any ability to do so anyway so it's probably for the best.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I wish I didn’t have to clean them. Of course I have to buy a new sterilizer the week before the world ends

Oh well

And old charter is a great whiskey. It’s the choice whiskey of thayer MO

It’s normally found on the bottom shelf of most liquor stores

Looks like it's the stuff Buffalo Trace scrapes off the bottom of the barrel before diluting the bottles with lake water.

So hey, it's gotta beat Old Crow. And I've gotten drunk on Kentucky Tavern so who am I to judge?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Feeling any better today?

Still running a fever over 100, which is frustrating. Had a massive coughing fit overnight that resulted in getting rid of some of the shit in my chest, so that's good. Took a shower for the first time without any significant help, but it exhausted me. Simple tasks are getting a *smidge* easier.

So you answer your question - yes, O.City should get that bottle of Pappy's boxed up and ready for shipping.