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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:22 AM   #1801
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You aren't going to build a bulletproof offense. The 2018 Chiefs offense had bumps in the road, same with the 2020 one.

Add a #1 WR....add a HOF LT etc. it won't matter.
If Jawaan Taylor is the real deal then we could be. The 2018 offense was partially so good bc we had bookend tackles that could handle pass rushers. Schwartz shutting down every DE was so valuable.

Last year proved that if you can give Patrick a good OL then he will kill you even without insane weapons
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:22 AM   #1802
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People wanting the offense to just be in fifth gear for 4 quarters, every game and put up 45 points just aren't realistic.
Nah man, it totally makes more sense to focus solely on fixing the #1 offense in the NFL as opposed to building a potential top 5 defense to go with it!
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:22 AM   #1803
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If Jawaan Taylor is the real deal then we could be. The 2018 offense was partially so good bc we had bookend tackles that could handle pass rushers. Schwartz shutting down every DE was so valuable.

Last year proved that if you can give Patrick a good OL then he will kill you even without insane weapons
The 2018 offense had times it struggled.

It's just gonna happen. This isn't a video game. The other guys get paid too.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:23 AM   #1804
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Yeah, that's something a Bengals fan would say.

The Bengals defend the Chiefs better than most teams, but their success against Mahomes has really been exagerrated/skewed by the second half of the 2021 AFC championship game (Jan 22).

Outside of that half, the Chiefs offense has been really successful against the Bengals. They did OK against Mahomes on one leg and a WR receiver corps that was down to using TEs for WR routes in the most recent championship game, but were getting diced up because Toney and Smith-Schuster went down.

All that aside, one of the reasons they've been successful is that the secondary, especially the S, were really good at moving around and mixing up and disguising what they're doing. They've had complete turnover at S and 3/5 of their nickel DB group will be different. I wouldn't call that "standing pat."
At the very least the Bengals are a very different team on offense with a healthy OL. They aren't easy to stop. Which means our offense has a much smaller margin of error and the Bengals have been more successful than others at frustrating us. There is no team I hate more so the opposite... I want to destroy them so they go home crying to their mommies.

But to your point what's to stop defenses from copying? We saw variations of defense that were more successful than others. Weve stalled against real good zone defenses like Gus Bradley or even lovie smith. We did not have very good success against the mcvay tree (rams, chargers, broncos) and yes I'm aware we won each of those games. Or the titans/patriots approach of knocking the shit out of Kelce. Which is why I keep coming back to kelce and how we need to give the dude some help.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:24 AM   #1805
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Nah man, it totally makes more sense to focus solely on fixing the #1 offense in the NFL as opposed to building a potential top 5 defense to go with it!
Shit, I'm as spendy and trade happy as anyone. I'd love to have a legit #1 dude.

For one, you've gotta have someone that will trade you one, or second you've gotta draft and develop one.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:25 AM   #1806
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At the very least the Bengals are a very different team on offense with a healthy OL. They aren't easy to stop. Which means our offense has a much smaller margin of error and the Bengals have been more successful than others at frustrating us. There is no team I hate more so the opposite... I want to destroy them so they go home crying to their mommies.

But to your point what's to stop defenses from copying? We saw variations of defense that were more successful than others. Weve stalled against real good zone defenses like Gus Bradley or even lovie smith. We did not have very good success against the mcvay tree (rams, chargers, broncos) and yes I'm aware we won each of those games. Or the titans/patriots approach of knocking the shit out of Kelce. Which is why I keep coming back to kelce and how we need to give the dude some help.
The Chiefs, with Andy and Mahomes, have put up gaudy numbers against Gus Bradley led defenses.

What are you even talking about?

We demolished zone defenses last year.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:31 AM   #1807
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People wanting the offense to just be in fifth gear for 4 quarters, every game and put up 45 points just aren't realistic.
It isn't about a fifth gear. Our 4th quarter offense vs Cincy, rams, Denver, Seattle, buffalo, indy and Houston were flat out terrible. Not just bad, terrible.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:36 AM   #1808
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CIN is 3-1 vs. KC. I wouldn’t say we should feel all that comfortable about playing them just yet.
You make a good point, but that 3-1 record is an extremely limited sample. It seems to imply that we only have a 25% chance of beating them and I sure as hell don't believe that. The Bengals are a very good team, but they don't worry me any more than any other very good team.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:37 AM   #1809
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So, you want the most efficient offense in league history, to be more efficient?
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:39 AM   #1810
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Feels like the Bills are very unlikely after signing Floyd.
I would assume it’s going to be the Ravens or Browns that sign him.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:40 AM   #1811
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So, you want the most efficient offense in league history, to be more efficient?
Yeah, we were number 1 in everything so clearly we should go all in on Hopkins.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:41 AM   #1812
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So, you want the most efficient offense in league history, to be more efficient?
Yes.

Haha sorry. Left yourself wide open
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Feels like the Bills are very unlikely after signing Floyd.
How many DL can you possibly invest in?
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:54 AM   #1815
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The Chiefs, with Andy and Mahomes, have put up gaudy numbers against Gus Bradley led defenses.

What are you even talking about?

We demolished zone defenses last year.
We struggled against Gus Bradley last year. Had our share of struggles against th mcvay tree (Raheem/evero/Staley) and (super bowl aside...) Fangio (Denver blueprint, Seattle). Along with the Bengals, common theme seems to be talented secondaries very good at mixing coverages. That's to go alongside the Tennessee/New England blueprint of clobbering Kelce.

And with a mark on our head you know defenses are using this as a blueprint to build personnel and off-season plans to counter what we're doing. Our offense on paper was outstanding but it also hides some warts, biggest of which is how much we rely on Kelce and how much longer we can continue doing that.
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