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06-19-2018, 08:36 AM | #1801 |
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I watched probably every Royals game between 1999-2011, then because of a new job and a crazy work schedule I haven't been able to follow them the last 5-6 years so I can't speak for that time. This is the first year I can actually sit down and watch them again. I have to say this is by far the worst pitching staff I have ever seen.
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06-19-2018, 08:40 AM | #1802 |
Black Bob's daddy
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The Royals sure seem to have bad luck trading relievers. Wasn't Davis injured a bit before we traded him?
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06-19-2018, 08:51 AM | #1803 | |
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06-19-2018, 08:53 AM | #1804 |
Rabbi Goldmann
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Quite possible this was DMs first admission Busta Starling is finished as a prospect. It's obv now that Perkins the CF is the best piece. Why trade for him if you like Starling?
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06-19-2018, 08:57 AM | #1805 | |
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At the very least, he's out of time, I agree. Just bring him up and put him in CF for the rest of the season, no matter what. If he blows, let him go at the end of the year. Put up or shut up. It's sink or swim time. |
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06-19-2018, 09:05 AM | #1806 |
Herm is the worst...horrible
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I'm not trying to be snarky here...but you trade for Perkins to have another player with tools in your system, whether Starling is a bust or not. One doesn't have t have anything to do with the other when you're in the Royals position of needing to load your system back up. Everything and everyone is either an asset for a better future ballclub or for trading to make a better ballclub.
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06-19-2018, 09:25 AM | #1807 | |
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06-19-2018, 09:41 AM | #1808 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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The problem is that Morel's pretty much impossible for us to judge. He's in the DSL, which is like two steps below short season ball. He's genuinely 7-8 steps removed from the big leagues at this point - there's no way for any of us to get a read on a guy like that. It's fair to wonder how the Nationals got him a year ago as a UDFA on a pittance of a contract and now suddenly the Royals are trading one of their better assets to get him - where was Moore a year ago? But beyond that, I just don't know how anyone can give a good read on him. Guiterrez - meh. Organizational piece; a poor man's Cuthbert. I'd be surprised if he ever 'won' a job on a major league team apart from being an injury fill-in. Parker's defense will get him to the bigs. I really like his approach at the plate and the fact that he's been able to learn to switch hit as a professional without cratering is really impressive; says a lot about his natural hit tool, IMO. I think in time you could get a reasonable facsimile to Jarrod Dyson. I don't think he has Dyson's raw speed, but he's fast. I like him as a potential defense heavy 2-3 win player in CF. Nobody that's going to be a true impact player but a possible starter. Morel makes/breaks the trade in all likelihood but if Parker just becomes something of a poor man's Dyson, that's a pretty good return in its own right. |
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06-19-2018, 09:44 AM | #1809 |
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I’d like to think we can’t do worse than the Herrera trade, but this organization seems to be back in the mode of finding new lows.
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06-19-2018, 10:40 AM | #1810 | |
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For a half a season's worth of Herrera, I don't know that you could expect much more. |
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06-19-2018, 10:50 AM | #1811 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
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I'm not as high as the Nats system as you are, I do think it thins out pretty quickly. But I like Perkins. I'm not sure he'd be quite enough to be the 'headliner' in a deal for an established closer, but Herrera's sometimes balky arm and the possibility that he has some intestinal fortitude issue (his weirdness last year hasn't been forgotten by MLB GMs I'd imagine) perhaps put a damper on his value. When you're getting a rental who's had some flame-outs in the past, there's a chance you get nothing if he has one again. Oftentimes reliability is more important to an organization when they're pursuing a mid-season rental than pure upside is. That may explain the lack of a true 'anchor' piece in this return. |
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06-19-2018, 11:01 AM | #1812 |
"You like to drink?"
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Seems like the Herrera trade was as good as it was gonna get. Nobody's gonna cough up premiums for rental players.
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06-19-2018, 11:11 AM | #1813 | ||
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Much different situation trading a guy with a ton of control left than a half season. Merrifield should yield a really strong return. Pretty close to what the Nats yielded for Eaton. Quote:
All 3 of those pieces have the potential to pay off the trade and then some. Gutierrez’s offensive profile plays a lot better as a 2B or util guy, but he could be a really valuable one. |
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06-19-2018, 11:22 AM | #1814 | |
Rabbi Goldmann
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The Reds got 3 good pieces from us, ESP Cody Reed who was #30 overall in the next BA rankings. All 3 sucked ass for them. Way better pieces than we got here obv. |
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06-19-2018, 11:38 AM | #1815 |
In Search of a Life
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Just out of curiosity - how good could a team filled with players who came up with the Royals be - right now? Let's say the criteria is they were either drafted or spent the majority of their minor leagues with the Royals.
C - Perez 1B - Hos 2B - Whit SS - Modesi? 3B - Moose LF - Gordo? CF - Dyson? RF - Myers DH - Bring back Beltran lol? SP - Greinke SP - Duffy SP - ? SP - ? SP - ? RP - Herrera RP - Holland RP - ? Who am I forgetting about? |
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