***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Considering that there were 400,000 to 730,000 estimated hospitalizations due to the seasonal flu since October (according to the CDC) it would seem likely that at least some of those cases would require “a team of doctors and nurses”, ventilator-supported care, PPE’s etc.

Yeah and when the seasonal flu required NYC to set up a tent city in Central Park it really hit home how unprepared we were for the seasonal flu.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That can't be. I was told eveyone is social distancing thus the reason the models were so far off.

Social distancing and 'over reacting' appear to explain a good chunk CA's better outcome versus NY.

Yes, NYC has overcrowded subways. So did SF.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

The park across from my development

Some places are doing this...

Santa Clarita, CA. All the parks look like this. pic.twitter.com/4CEdmSFT9g

— SpammyJ (@spamuelJ21) March 29, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Coronavirus cases per 100,000 by state via @CNN:

678 - New York
463 - New Jersey
320 - Louisiana
201 - Massachusetts
194 - Connecticut
172 - Michigan
155 - Washington, D.C.
110 - Washington state
103 - Pennsylvania
102 - Rhode Island
97 - Illinois
90 - Colorado
87 - Vermont

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) April 7, 2020

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Coronavirus cases per 100,000 by state via @CNN:

678 - New York
463 - New Jersey
320 - Louisiana
201 - Massachusetts
194 - Connecticut
172 - Michigan
155 - Washington, D.C.
110 - Washington state
103 - Pennsylvania
102 - Rhode Island
97 - Illinois
90 - Colorado
87 - Vermont

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) April 7, 2020

Considering some of the comments in this thread Im surprised who isn't on that list.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Considering some of the comments in this thread Im surprised who isn't on that list.

Rather amazing that CA isn't on that list isn't it?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Social distancing and 'over reacting' appear to explain a good chunk CA's better outcome versus NY.

Yes, NYC has overcrowded subways. So did SF.

What is in place is in place. Knowing how many follow the guidelines is impossible to say. Sorry.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Yeah and when the seasonal flu required NYC to set up a tent city in Central Park it really hit home how unprepared we were for the seasonal flu.

Define "required". Define the need, which situation actually created this issue?

How many beds are taken up right now for Covid?

https://www.recordonline.com/news/20...0-cases-so-far

There were 17,233 confirmed flu cases reported to health officials in New York during the week ending Feb. 8, a record-setting pace.

It was the second-highest weekly total since the 1998-1999 flu season, according to state health data. The highest tally during a single week was 18,252 in 2017-18.

So far this flu season, there have been a total of 106,824 influenza cases reported in New York, with three flu-associated pediatric deaths.

Last week alone, 1,993 New Yorkers were hospitalized with lab-confirmed influenza. So far this season, there have been 15,541 flu-related hospitalizations, and state health officials expect things could get even worse based on last week’s numbers.
In fact, flu cases in New York this season are expected to set record-high levels since state health officials began tracking flu cases during the 1998-99 season, according to Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

“As flu season has not yet peaked across New York, I urge everyone to remain vigilant and take simple precautions to protect themselves and their families,” Cuomo said in a statement Thursday.

“I encourage all New Yorkers older than six months to get their flu shot - it’s not too late,” he added.

Local flu cases
(Reported to NY health officials during the week ending Feb. 8)

Westchester County: 909

Orange County: 258

Rockland County: 242

Dutchess County: 158

Ulster County: 78

Putnam County: 61

Sullivan County: 55

Source: New York State Department of Health

In contrast to flu cases piling up, New York as of Thursday had no confirmed cases of coronavirus, which has sickened more than 60,000 across the globe and killed nearly 1,400, mostly in China.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Rather amazing that CA isn't on that list isn't it?

Or Missouri.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Or Missouri.

Oh no, Mo is on that list....you just cant see it

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Rep.

Hey man gotta take your victories where you can get them

Seriously though thanks for all the info shared. In some ways its brought me some calm.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Oh no, Mo is on that list....you just cant see it

?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

?

I'm being sarcastic.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Oh no, Mo is on that list....you just cant see it

Should be about 51

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Should be about 51

No, no, no...it's like #4 or something because it is the next hot sport. Read it on the CP myself ..........true story