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#167 |
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You build your lines and QB...KC moves Jones, it might take years to replace him.
Draft picks dont mean shit...Speaks and K-pass were both 2nd rounders. hell...Leonard Williams was considered a no-brainer steal when the Jets got him at #5 overall. Jones has nearly twice the amount of sacks....Rated #2 in the NFL. You dont trade away home-grown top talent... |
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#169 |
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2 first round picks is the starting point...like I said earlier, teams drafting top 10 DL are HOPING he might be as good a Jones. The odds of that pick turning into the 2nd best in the NFL are pretty slim...
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I’m pretty sure I read a story not two weeks ago on arrowhead pride or something where it was rumored the Colts were considering offering at least a second round pick for Jones. I’m in the middle of something right now or I’d look it up myself.
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31 teams would give up a 2nd round pick for Jones...
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Why does everyone always act like Aaron Rodgers was some mistreated player that the Packers didn't do enough to help him succeed on offense? This is the record/off rank/def rank of the Packers since Rodgers became starter-
08 - 6-10/5th/22nd 09 - 11-5/3rd/7th 10 - 10-6/10th/2nd/SB champs 11 - 15-1/1st/19th 12 - 11-5/5th/11th 13 - 8-7-1/8th/24th 14 - 12-4/1st/13th 15 - 10-6/15th/12th 16 - 10-6/4th/22nd 17 - 7-9/21st/26th (Rodgers played in only 7 games) 18 - 6-9-1/14th/22nd 19 - 13-3/15th/9th They had an offense that was ranked in the top 5 for 6 out of his first 9 seasons. Sure the offense haand been as good the last couple years, but id say some of that has to do with the fact that Rodgers is getting older. If anything this proves you need to keep your all pro defenders cuz AR only 1 SB and that was when the D was the 2nd best in the league. In every single playoff loss the Packers scored 20 or more points and averaged 27 points a game. Hell in 2009 they lost 51-45 in the playoffs. The D gave up an average of 36 ****ing points a game. This is why you keep the impact players on D. They make that whole side of the ball better. |
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I think his point is that if you pay one player too much the rest of the talent level of the team drops.
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#178 |
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If Jones is as good as everyone here says then he should have much more value than a 2nd round pick.
Khalil Mack(/w conditional 2nd and 5th) was traded to Chicago for two 1sts, a 3rd a 6th. Chicago made Mack the highest-paid defender in NFL history. Another example is Frank Clark he was 25yrs old when we gave up a 1st and 2nd pick for Clark along with a 100m dollar contract. Mack was 27, Clark was 25 when they were traded. Chris Jones is 25 now, so how did it go from getting all that for Mack/Clark to talking about getting a 2nd for jones? If Jones is that good then a 1st and 3rd should be the starting point for any trade. If Jones isn't good enough to be worth a 1st and 3rd then we probably shouldn't be giving him a huge contract. |
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Paying too much for average players hurts your team...*see Hitchens*. Highly drafting players that dont impact your team hurts them too..*see Speaks* Hope this cleared that bit of confusion up... Trading Jones will leave a void...take Oakland for example. They traded Mack but kept Carr. They ended up using their #4 overall pick to replace him (Ferrell)...then spent the Mack pick on a RB. They used their Cooper pick on a safety that played one game...and are likely to use their first 2020 pick on a WR to replace him. That's a terrible return...they got a safety and a RB (so far) for Mack and Cooper. They had already spent draft picks #4 overall (Cooper) and #5 overall (Mack)...then have to spend another #4 overall to replace him (Mack). They are now going to use ANOTHER high #1 pick on a WR. Last edited by BlackOp; 03-11-2020 at 02:53 AM.. |
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#180 |
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What happens to Jones is an Andy OG call. He needs a team for Mahomes. Tag and trade. We need the picks more than another guy breaking the bank on the DL.
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