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#166 |
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Join Date: May 2005
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Dirk Benedict was the perfect Starbuck for the late 70s, and when I watched the pilot of the new BSG I was disappointed.
My opinion changed 180 degrees as the story developed. BSG is one of my favorite shows, all genres, all-time. Katie Sackhoff did a great job. Hell, everyone did on that show. |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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#168 |
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Join Date: Sep 2021
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People are super upset about this being the latest IP to get "woke-ified". Critical Drinker is real upset about it, and I guess I get it, cause he's from Scotland, which is part of the British Isles, which is the part of the world the writer of the Lord of the Rings was from. So it's the one IP they had, other than Doctor Who, that they could take pride in. Doctor Who of course went mega ultra woke, so they only had this. They had some old dumb nerd books that were too long and didn't have anything to say, and they had ultra long and boring Peter Jackson movies that also didn't have much to say or do, but they loved it. And now it's being ripped away and wokefied lol. It's sad, but I never cared for elves and dragons, so this is one I don't care about losing.
Here are some links about how upset people are about this wokeification situation though. I can rest assured that Faulkner will never be woked. It won't work. You can't woke Faulkner at all. But these poor Lord of the Rings fans don't have the same barrier of entry. Here was one of his videos about this situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT_RrIobJvo entitled "Amazon's Lord of the Rings - I've Got a Bad Feeling About This" Here's one called "Lord of the Rings - A Fandom Too Far": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zPcxIWToB4 There's more, but that's the jist. What a world we live in. |
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#169 |
Has a particular set of skills
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
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Saw the new teaser. Looks fantastic. They spent “movie” level money on the CGI.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Blue Springs, MO
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#171 |
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
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#172 |
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Join Date: Sep 2021
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^^great share there, Bowser. And it isn't just the Drinker that is taking exception. Here is an interesting video by a youtuber called "Ryan Kinel - Outpost" entitled "Amazon's Rings of Power Trailer gets DESTROYED AGAIN by Lord of the Rings Fans - This is NOT Tokien": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj042uYvOHE. Interesting thing about this video is that it goes into the ratios on the official trailer and shows how brutally it is getting downvoted in all countries (except oddly, Brazil). So this has objective data as opposed to being one person's opinion piece.
Here's one by a guy named "Nerdrotic" that is an old school super fan of Tolkien and he is apparently a member of a Tolkien society. He has disturbing reports about how far-left that literary society has gone that is worth watching, and he discusses some of the internet tricks Amazon is up to to try to hide fan backlash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuzthEzPbs. Here's a youtuber called Disparu with a well done video entitled "Rings of Power Trailer HATES Tolkien's Legacy and Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings Comparisons": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzDoJmmXJMQ. He highlights how it was no accident to have characters in this trailer saying "The past is dead. Those that don't let it die will die along with it" Very reminiscent of Star Wars with their famous "Let the past die" shtick. [Edited to add: Drinker was also all over this at 8:10 in Bowser's video above. Wasn't exactly subtle I guess.] [An interesting aside about the past. William Faulkner had a quote, word for word, "The past is never dead. It's not even past." I'm gonna side with Faulkner there because Faulkner was a genius and these committee writers of terrible TV shows and movies, are, well, not.] This isn't normal backlash. Tolkien fans are far better read (smarter) than most of the fanbases of other franchises that have chosen to focus on identity politics above all else. Star Wars fans had the EU, which was no kind of literature. Star Trek fans had no reading at all, same with Doctor Who, and all the comic book fandoms consisted of...comic book readers. Sorry, 'graphic novels'. Tolkien fans, in contrast, are pretty much into real literature and they are not happy that it is being 'improved' for 'modern audiences'. Last edited by Vladimir_Kyrilytch; 07-15-2022 at 03:37 PM.. |
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#173 |
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Join Date: Apr 2019
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If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's not like the books or the Peter Jackson movies are going to vanish. Revisit those instead.
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#174 |
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#175 |
Needs more middle fingers
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
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I probably won't watch it.
I'm not one who identifies strong female leads as "woke-ism" all the time, but this one here is painfully forced. When they start changing multiple character genders like that, they're forcing it. If they're forcing it, they're effectively telling people to get ****ed if they don't like it. And if you're telling me to get ****ed....well **** you too. |
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The talking stonehead
Join Date: Feb 2006
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#178 |
Stay positive, don't give up
Join Date: Dec 2001
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This looks good visually for sure..hope the story is good.
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#179 |
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Join Date: Aug 2017
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Stop changing the gender and races of characters.
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#180 |
Live free or die hard
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Durango, CO
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I saw the original and liked them a lot. Not going to ruin the experience.
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