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Old 12-10-2018, 04:00 PM   #2
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Tyreek is definitely in the top 10 but DeAndre Hopkins hands-down is the best receiver in football and that’s without a decent quarterback throwing to him and yes that includes Deshaun Watson as well. When you consider how much he has done without a running game and without a quarterback just imagine what this guy would do with PM2 to as quarterback.
Tyreek Hill made Alex Smith look like a good deep passer for the first time in 13 years. No slight at Smith there but it’s true.
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:01 PM   #3
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Tyreek is definitely in the top 10 but DeAndre Hopkins hands-down is the best receiver in football and that’s without a decent quarterback throwing to him and yes that includes Deshaun Watson as well. When you consider how much he has done without a running game and without a quarterback just imagine what this guy would do with PM2 to as quarterback.
Call me crazy, but I’d take Theilen over Hopkins right now.
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:04 PM   #4
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Call me crazy, but I’d take Theilen over Hopkins right now.
Thielen is a glorified Jarvis Landry
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:07 PM   #5
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Thielen is a glorified Jarvis Landry
Absurd comparison.
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:11 PM   #6
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Absurd comparison.
He does bad posts.
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:23 PM   #7
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Absurd comparison.
Both feast on a high number of catches on shorter routes with a low ypc average.
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:02 PM   #8
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Call me crazy, but I’d take Theilen over Hopkins right now.
With Thielen's contract? You bet I would take him over Hopkins!

Thielen makes an average ~$5 million per year over the next three years.

The Vikings did his deal at the EXACT right time. And while Hill is a better WR/player than Thielen and currently makes less, it won't be that way for long. I'm not so certain I wouldn't swap out Thielen and Hill.

That deal is the NFL's absolute BEST non-rookie contract in terms of value. It's the reason why the Vikings shouldn't feel so miserable about the Kirk Cousins deal, because they'll still be able to afford a few pieces along the OL and defense in the next couple of years.

Imagine if we had that Thielen deal instead of the Sammy Watkins contract. Think about what we could afford. That's basically the luxury that the Vikings are dealing with right now. It's incredible.
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:20 PM   #9
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Tyreek is definitely in the top 10 but DeAndre Hopkins hands-down is the best receiver in football and that’s without a decent quarterback throwing to him and yes that includes Deshaun Watson as well. When you consider how much he has done without a running game and without a quarterback just imagine what this guy would do with PM2 to as quarterback.
I won't argue against DHop but "in the top 10" is being ridiculously conservative. He is UNQUESTIONABLY top 5. I don't care which order people rank them, or who you think you have to bump out for him, Hill is in there.

For my personal preference, I would go:

1. Hopkins
2. Hill
3. Julio
4. OBJ
5. Evans

Brown/Thomas/Adams are the next 3, and after that it gets pretty messy.
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Old 12-10-2018, 06:16 PM   #10
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:29 PM   #11
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I read that Tyreek’s injury is on the bottom of the heel itself, not at the Achilles or attachment point. This is a good thing because it causes pain when he walks (heel first) but not necessarily when he runs or pivots, which is done primarily on the ball of the foot. He’ll be out there. Tough as nails.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:04 PM   #12
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I read that Tyreek’s injury is on the bottom of the heel itself, not at the Achilles or attachment point. This is a good thing because it causes pain when he walks (heel first) but not necessarily when he runs or pivots, which is done primarily on the ball of the foot. He’ll be out there. Tough as nails.
They had a doctor on NFL radio this afternoon who said the same thing. Said running will actually be less painful than walking though he won’t be able to slow down or cut certain ways. Outside of getting jammed back on his sore heel this doc basically said it won’t have a lot of impact as counter-intuitive as that sounds.

Here’s a link to a story about that:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...210-story.html
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:01 PM   #13
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:58 PM   #14
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:27 AM   #15
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What contract would you give Hill?
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