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Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"
Anyone watch the unveil last night?
The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible. - 0-60 in 5 sec - 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs - 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi - 500 mile range - 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge - Guaranteed 7¢/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil - Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road) - 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown - Will never need a brake change - "Impossible" to jacknife - Beats semis on economics day 1 - In convoy mode, beats rail on economics 300 miles of range: $150,000 500 miles of range: $180,000 Founders series: $200,000 https://youtu.be/CBTQnmUolas The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg. - 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars) - 0-100 in 4.2 - 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec - 250+ mph top speed - 621 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling) - 10,000 nm torque and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars. Also teased a rendering image of a consumer pickup truck with a normal truck in the bed. https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA Last edited by aturnis; 11-23-2017 at 02:02 AM.. |
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05-12-2018, 03:48 PM | #166 |
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When this is true of the entirety of corporate America we’ll be a lot better off. But don’t kid yourself thinking Tesla is the only car manufacturer with gov’t help.
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05-12-2018, 04:11 PM | #167 | |
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05-12-2018, 05:59 PM | #168 | |
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The true difference in battery tech is chemistry for both performance and cost. I honestly don't think anyone will be able to compete. As noted in the call, Tesla has greatly reduced the need for cobalt in their batteries, and see a path to get it to almost nothing. This is HUGE for cost as prices have been trending upward. If other automakers intend to go 100% electric, which they all do outside out Fiat and Toyota(sorry gearheads), they'll likely be putting prismatic cells in their cars to get the volume they'll need and to save on weight and shove batteries wherever they find space. Problem is, cars are a terrible place to use prismatic cells. This is typically what traditional OEM's use though. They favor larger cell sizes and less connections. The problem is, they degrade faster, and if a single cell goes out, it can make a HUGE difference to performance/range. Basically, when you hear the worn out adage of, "you'll have to replace the battery after 10 years, if it makes it that long"!, they are referring to prismatic cells. The vibrations of the road make the bagged chemistry shake itself apart faster. Other problems are losing a single cell is significant, as I said earlier, and they can be easily damaged/punctured in a wreck. Which of course can be dangerous. This is why I'm not too worried about all other OEM's going electric. It might effect the stock early, but once the public understands the ins and outs, or OEM's have their reputations ruined by going with a poor solution, Tesla should remain out in front. |
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05-12-2018, 06:06 PM | #171 | |
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If your love of driving is about performance, it's electric all day. If you're in it for noise, sorry. Eventually you'll learn to love the whirring of a powerful electric motor. |
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05-12-2018, 06:17 PM | #173 | |
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Losing subsidies will be the best thing to ever happen to Tesla. Other OEMs wind be able to compete. |
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05-12-2018, 06:27 PM | #174 | |
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Short term traders? No. Long term? Money in the bank. Trading based promises and performance is asinine. It's not about how they get there, it's where they end up. Seeing outlandish deadlines a bad thing? I don't think so, I've always been a big fan when managing people. Set expectations high, they might succeed, but will probably fail. They'll definitely get more accomplished the next guy though. Elons crazy time frames have advanced things far beyond what anyone thought possible, and in record time. What was it, 5 years ago that landing rockets was "impossible"and foolish? You invest in people who talk, I'll invest in those who do, we'll see where we end up. Elon might be late, but he'll always be first. |
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05-12-2018, 06:38 PM | #175 | |
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Their lead engineer is taking a break. Wouldn't be the first executive through had take a leave only to return from said leave. I'm almost certain he's never worked harder than he has this past year and a half. If he wants to build something big and be a part of history, he'll be back. If he just wants to get paid and live his life, he'll end up elsewhere. |
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Torque isn’t the problem. Duh. Electricity kicks the **** out of internal combustion all day every day. Getting torque to the asphalt is the problem. Everything on trucks needs to be heavy duty. Engineering a 2000lb car to run 200,000 miles is not even in the same universe as an 85000 lb truck for 1,000,000. Everything from the kingpin to the lugnuts need intensive testing. The engineering has to be ****ing right or it just won’t work in a fleet. It’s way different than engineering a passenger car |
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05-13-2018, 08:54 AM | #180 |
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Who knew Elon’s mom posted here?
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