***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Heard this on NPR..

Once the peak passes and we have a consistent timeframe of lowered death rates, have everyone >40 go back to work. They can go out. If you are >40 and have a pre-existing condition, you work from home until the vaccine is created. It’s your responsibility to stay home and away from people.

Everyone over 40 works from home or keeps their distance....at home until vaccine.

^ I’m on board with this

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Heard this on NPR..

Once the peak passes and we have a consistent timeframe of lowered death rates, have everyone >40 go back to work. They can go out. If you are >40 and have a pre-existing condition, you work from home until the vaccine is created. It’s your responsibility to stay home and away from people.

Everyone over 40 works from home or keeps their distance....at home until vaccine.

^ I’m on board with this

That's a homeless sentence for me and my family.

It's just not realistic.

[penguinz]

Might be a repeat....

An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee [source]

A study by disease modelers at the University of Texas at Austin states that "Given the low testing rates throughout the country, we assume that 1 in 10 cases are tested and reported. If a county has detected only 1 case of COVID-19, there is a 51%
chance that there is already a growing outbreak underway" [source]

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by stevieray

That's a homeless sentence for me and my family.

It's just not realistic.

Under that circumstance, would your employer let you go into work if it’s on your own accord?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by ping2000

First close relative of mine diagnosed with it tonight. Makes this suck even more.

Sorry to hear that. Many people are recovering now so that is good.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Making due w/ lays potato chips and some Prairie Farms french onion dip. That damn Dean's crap is just inedible.



I've never tried the extra toasty but I've tried probably a dozen other Cheeze-it varieties and I'll be damned if they don't ALL suck. And some of them sound incredibly promising. They'll come up with some pepper jack or black pepper jalapeno or what not and it'll just sound amazing. And it's trash.

Maybe I'll have to spin the wheel on the burned ones their sorter kicks out so they can re-label them 'extra toasty' and sell them instead of grinding them into dog food, but I've just grown wary of anything out of their wheelhouse...

Wonder if a gas station will have a small bag. I always love the burnt chips in the lays bags and stuff, so it may be worthwhile.

Wonder if they still make these loved them as a kid.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Heard this on NPR..

Once the peak passes and we have a consistent timeframe of lowered death rates, have everyone >40 go back to work. They can go out. If you are >40 and have a pre-existing condition, you work from home until the vaccine is created. It’s your responsibility to stay home and away from people.

Everyone over 40 works from home or keeps their distance....at home until vaccine.

^ I’m on board with this

I think your greater than is in the wrong direction, no?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Heard this on NPR..

Once the peak passes and we have a consistent timeframe of lowered death rates, have everyone >40 go back to work. They can go out. If you are >40 and have a pre-existing condition, you work from home until the vaccine is created. It’s your responsibility to stay home and away from people.

Everyone over 40 works from home or keeps their distance....at home until vaccine.

^ I’m on board with this

You going to pay every one over 40 to stay at home that cannot work from home?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Under that circumstance, would your employer let you go into work if it’s on your own accord?

He's a self employed artist, he has no employer.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Read this and no mention of "young and otherwise healthy patients are dying so fast". If=s there a link missing?

Yeah..young/healthy people seem to be doing just fine. No idea where that came from.

[Ninerfan11]

Things are looking up. Looks like Ny is turning the corner and the rest of the country will follow. It's time for America to kick @ss again.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by DaFace

In case anyone cares to dig at this depth, IHME published a PDF that has comparisons of the three waves of their model at the national and state level. Kind of interesting.

http://www.healthdata.org/sites/defa...ease_all_0.pdf

I don't know how new the data is on that site, but it's been off by ~25% on total deaths in Colorado for a couple of days now.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Things are looking up. Looks like Ny is turning the corner and the rest of the country will follow. It's time for America to kick @ss again.

Definitely looking good. Social distancing worked...

[Megatron96]

Louisiana reported tonight that the number of reported cases is flattening.

Washington state's governor reported that they have a surplus of ventilators and are willing to share them with CA or NY.

Looks like we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. TP shelves should be fully stocked in a few weeks.

And the curve seems to be flattening here in Maricopa county as well.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Things are looking up. Looks like Ny is turning the corner and the rest of the country will follow. It's time for America to kick @ss again.

Will a 2nd wave come if we go back to normal? That’s the big question